I know there is global warming, and I know that it is caused by human activity, but is carbon dioxide the cause of it? I read somewhere that apparently increase of CO₂ doesn't cause the increase in global temperatures, but rather, global temperatures cause the increase of CO₂. Can someone verify or disprove this claim?
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28How do you know that humans have caused global warming if you doubt that CO2 is behind it?– Golden CuyCommented May 20, 2011 at 12:45
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2It depends what you mean by cause and how far you want to trace the effects (even if you accept the consensus on warming). Higher CO2 doesn't directly account for the majority of projected warming in models: most warming comes from other forcing effects such as higher water concentrations and other feedbacks. So even in standard climate models it isn't the CO2 that directly causes the warming.– matt_blackCommented Jul 17, 2012 at 10:47
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7Do note that you have a false dilemma. It's also possible that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere increases the global temperatures, AND an increase in global temperatures increases the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. What a nasty feedback loop that would be...– Kaz DragonCommented Jun 3, 2013 at 12:24
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3True jwenting, though, of course, the net positive feedbacks have actually been measured through paleoclimate data, whereas the net negative feedback is based on wishful thinking.– MarkCommented Jun 5, 2013 at 2:15
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2Are you seriously saying that no positive feedback has ever been established outside climate science budgeting? Or just a humorous note?– MarkCommented Sep 12, 2013 at 9:53
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The Earth’s greenhouse effect is a natural occurrence that helps regulate the temperature of our planet. When the Sun heats the Earth, some of this heat escapes back to space. The rest of the heat, also known as infrared radiation, is trapped in the atmosphere by clouds and greenhouse gases, such as water vapor and carbon dioxide. If all of these greenhouse gases were to suddenly disappear, our planet would be 60ºF (33ºC) colder and would not support life as we know it. Human activities have enhanced the natural greenhouse effect by adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere, very likely (greater than 90 percent chance) causing the Earth’s average temperature to rise. These additional greenhouse gases come from burning fossil fuels such as coal, natural gas, and oil to power our cars, factories, power plants, homes, offices, and schools. Cutting down trees, generating waste and farming also produce greenhouse gases.
Source: The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) (via the Internet Archive: URLs listed here are the original locations)
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/fq/science.html, as it appeared in May 2012
You may also want to read:
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/stateofknowledge.html, as it appeared in May 2012
This page acknowledges the gaps in scientific climate knowledge, and differentiates fact from speculation/uncertain predictions.
Update:
Adding a NASA site which specifically references CO2 as a greenhouse gas: https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/
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The "90% chance" phrase suggests that it is a quantifiable matter of chance. It is a sound explanatory theory backed by evidence and espoused by the vast majority of professionals. Commented Feb 6, 2019 at 12:54
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1Your quote don't say anything about CO2 in particular, though. I see that the answer is accepted but I'm frustrated since i wanted to know about the CO2 particular role, to be honest.– GlorfSfCommented Feb 6, 2019 at 15:15
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@GlorfSf Thanks for your feedback. I added a link to NASA's website which talks specifically about CO2. Commented Feb 6, 2019 at 21:50
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Carbon dioxide is one of the greenhouse gases.
When its atoms are bonded tightly together, the carbon dioxide molecule can absorb infrared radiation and the molecule starts to vibrate.
Eventually, the vibrating molecule will emit the radiation again, and it will likely be absorbed by yet another greenhouse gas molecule.
This absorption-emission-absorption cycle serves to keep the heat near the surface, effectively insulating the surface from the cold of space.
Here are some research papers on the absorption properties of CO2.
From John Cook:
In 1970, NASA launched the IRIS satellite that measured infrared spectra between 400 cm-1 to 1600 cm-1.
In 1996, the Japanese Space Agency launched the IMG satellite which recorded similar observations.[Harries 2001] compared both sets of data to discern any changes in outgoing radiation over the 26 year period.
What they found was a drop in outgoing radiation at the wavelength bands that greenhouse gases such as CO2 and methane (CH4) absorb energy.
The change in outgoing radiation was consistent with theoretical expectations.
Thus the paper found "direct experimental evidence for a significant increase in the Earth's greenhouse effect".This result has been confirmed by subsequent papers using data from later satellites (Griggs 2004, Chen 2007).
Simply put:
Satellites measuring infrared (heat) radiation coming from our Earth found that CO2 (and other greenhouse gases) won't let it escape into space.
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Without preliminary explanation it’s not clear how the infrared spectra are relevant, and hence how the first citation is relevant (so I’m suggesting modifying the order of your explanation a bit). Commented May 20, 2011 at 14:49
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@Konrad- took your critizism to heart and restructered my answer– Oliver_CCommented May 20, 2011 at 15:28
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1in regards to the picture, why don't the greenhouse gases stop the heat from entering the atmosphere? Commented Jun 24, 2014 at 15:30
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4@msmucker0527: because CO2 is largely transparent to visible light. Light comes in as visible light, gets absorbed by the surface and re-emitted as infrared, and can't get out. The atmosphere is a partial one-way door for energy.– user3150Commented Jun 24, 2014 at 17:59
A rather late answer on this question, but here goes: The idea that "global temperatures cause the increase of CO2." is fairly easily refuted. The line of reasoning is that the solubility of CO2 in water decreases as temperature increases, so the rise in global temperature implies that the oceans will have released some of the dissolved CO2 that it contains. The premise is correct, but the conclusion is a Non sequitur as it ignores the fact that the solubility of CO2 in water also depends on the difference in partial pressure of CO2 between the ocean and the atmosphere. As we have released CO2 from fossil fuels into the atmosphere, the partial pressure of CO2 in the atmosphere has risen, and so the oceans have been taking up more CO2, not less.
How do we know this is true? . The argument is easily refuted by the observation that the rate at which atmospheric CO2 levels are rising is less than the rate at which we are releasing CO2 into the atmosphere from fossil fuel use, which implies that the natural environment must be a net carbon sink, taking in more carbon each year than it emits.
More formally, let Ea represent annual carbon emissions from anthropogenic sources (fossil fuel use and land use change), En represent the carbon emissions from all natural sources (the oceans, soil respiration, volcanos etc.) and Un represent the uptake of carbon by all natural carbon sinks (oceans, photosynthesis, etc.), Ua would be the uptake of carbon due to anthropogenic activities, but this is essentially zero, so we can safely exclude it from the analysis. Then assuming that the carbon cycle obeys the principle of conservation of mass (any carbon emitted into the atmosphere that is not taken up by natural sinks remains in the atmosphere), the annual change in atmospheric CO2 is given by:
C' = Ea + En - Un
This can be rearranged to give an estimate of the difference between annual emissions from all natural sources and annual natural uptake by all natural sinks.
En - Un = C' - Ea
We have accurate, reliable data for the growth of atmospheric CO2 and for anthropogenic emissions (for details, see Cawley, 2011). Both of these are displayed below, along with an estimate of the net natural carbon flux En - Un. The fact that the net natural flux is negative clearly shows that natural uptake has exceeded natural emissions every year for the last fifty years at least, and hence has been opposing, rather than causing the observed rise in atmospheric CO2.
Some time back, I wrote a journal paper refuting a related climate myth, which outlines some of the evidence that the rise in atmospheric CO2 is anthropogenic, and is not a natural phenomenon.
I find it hard to understand how this argument can be so ubiquitous on climate blogs, given that it is so easily refuted. For further information, see the many articles on SkepticalScience.com addressing this issue (and other climate myths).
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@jwenting In case you hadn’t noticed, you’re talking to one (AGW believer, that is). :p – Also, nobody got banned yet for posting facts here so stop spreading demonstrable falsehoods. Heck, we didn’t even block Christopher Monckton, despite him being known for lying through his teeth on the subject. Commented Sep 12, 2013 at 10:34
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3I wouldn't characterise myself as an "AGW believer", I just try to understand the science (and check out claims to see if the data actually do support the claim, which is how I ended up writing a paper for Energy and Fuels). I generally find that mainstream climatologists are rather better supported by the evidence than extremes on either side.– user18604Commented Sep 12, 2013 at 11:09
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1@KevinFegan (In addition to Dikran’s comment): in other words: human-caused climate change. Commented Nov 23, 2016 at 10:26
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1@elliotsvensson why don't you try reading the IPCC reports. There has been a lot of research on aerosols going back to the 1960s. It is a bad idea to pay too much attention to a single study as being published is only the first step to acceptance by the research community, not the last. Especially when you know perfectly well the same group has published a paper saying it has no significant impact on climate. That is pretty shabby "skepticism" IMHO. skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/5983/…– user18604Commented Feb 8, 2019 at 8:09
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1@elliotsvensson yawn, ad-hominems are no substitute for cogent scientific argument. Note it is you, not me, that is being selective about the information presented. You know perfectly well that the CLOUD group published a paper saying that there was no significant impact of cosmic cloud forming, and yet here you are again promoting it without mentioning that slight fly in the ointment!– user18604Commented Feb 11, 2019 at 9:28
I think there is some "chicken and egg" confusion.
CO2 is absolutely a greenhouse gas, and absolutely traps heat. It does, and always has caused warming.
The part that confounds the casual observer is this - CO2 hasn't always been the initial trigger for warming events. There has to be some mechanism for increased CO2 released into the atmosphere. So, if you look at a graph of CO2 concentrations and warming, in the past you'd see warming happen before CO2 levels would increase. However, that doesn't mean that the CO2 didn't contribute to warming, once released.
In pre-mankind warming events, what often happened was that stores of CO2 were sequestered in ways where, if there was warming, would release the CO2, and then the released CO2 would increase or prolong the warming event.
The difference, now, is that humans have actively taken that CO2 and released it into the atmosphere by extracting sequestered fossil fuels and burning them. In this case, there was no warming event caused by natural factors to release certain stores of CO2, as humans actively extracted carbon that was taken out of circulation over eons.
What the science says....
When the Earth comes out of an ice age, the warming is not initiated by CO2 but by changes in the Earth's orbit. The warming causes the oceans to release CO2. The CO2 amplifies the warming and mixes through the atmosphere, spreading warming throughout the planet. So CO2 causes warming AND rising temperature causes CO2 rise. Overall, about 90% of the global warming occurs after the CO2 increase.
Skeptical Science: CO2 lags temperature - what does it mean?
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One, tiny, perhaps too nuanced quibble: it's notjust CO2, but greenhouse gases in total ie. man's actions. known sins + CH4 H2S … -> CO2 is a factor in global climate. // Q: 'causin': then this is about alterating the supposed equilibrium: bogus. But, unless we know all factors + dynamics (conclusiely) , best bet to hedge on stable conditions? Commented Feb 7, 2019 at 1:02
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@LangLangC - That's only a quibble if we're asking if CO2 causes all of the warming. The question is merely does it cause warming (it does) and how historical lags of concentrations can be explained if CO2 causes warming. There is no claim, implied or explicit, in the question or in my answer that CO2 is the sole warming gas overall, or the sole warming gas produced by man. Commented Feb 7, 2019 at 16:29
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3As I wrote: tiny. QTitle: Does CO2? Yes. Easy. QBody: Is CO2 the cause? For a very large part of it, yes. But complicated. Very minor shift in reading the Q. Commented Feb 7, 2019 at 16:42
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You don't show whether CO2 is a major factor or just contributing factor and to what extend. Commented Apr 30, 2020 at 9:44
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1@akostadinov - I don't show whether water is wet, either. This is pretty well-established that it is, currently, THE major factor, and the extent of warming has been exhaustively tracked and studied. If you have doubts about it, or can't find evidence or documentation just about anywhere, then congratulations on your recent awakening from a decades-long coma. Commented May 4, 2020 at 15:32
Yes, but it's not the only cause.
Aerosols that people release (such as sulfate and amines) affect climate just like the carbon dioxide that we release, but the aerosols cause global cooling, not global warming. Also, the effect from carbon dioxide is 2-3 times as strong as the known effect from aerosols. Here's an excerpt from the Fifth Assessment Report of the IPCC.
Natural forcing changes over the last 15 years have likely offset a substantial fraction (at least 30%) of the anthropogenic forcing increase during this period (Box TS.3). Forcing by CO2 is the largest single contributor to the total forcing during the Industrial Era and from 1980-2011. Compared to the entire Industrial Era, the dominance of CO2 forcing is larger for the 1980-2011 change with respect to other [well-mixed greenhouse gases], and there is high confidence that the offset from aerosol forcing to [well-mixed greenhouse gas] forcing during this period was much smaller than over the 1950-1980 period. {8.5.2}
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Emissions of SO2, organic carbon and ammonia cause a negative forcing [global cooling], while emissions of black carbon lead to positive forcing [global warming] via aerosol-radiation interactions.
There is still low agreement on the time evolution of the total aerosol [effective radiative forcing], which is the primary factor for the uncertainty in the total anthropogenic forcing.
5th Climate Assessment Technical Summary - IPCC page 56, [bracketed expressions by Elliot]
The Aerosol-Cloud error bar of -1.2 indicates that aerosol-caused clouds are known to have a very strong cooling affect.
One component of the expected future global warming is already 'in the system': as global development improves, reductions emissions (aerosol and other) will reduce cloud cover and the earth's temperature will rise somewhat. This is quite independent of the warming effect of any CO2 emissions and attempts to control that.
Further Reading
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3You might want to adjust your "affect climate just as much as the carbon dioxide" statement, since the report and the charts you posted to not support that claim. I'll be happy to delve into what I think that chart is showing vs what you do, if you'd like. In particular, those probability bell curves - the "total" curve is the combination of the aerosol and greenhouse gas curves, so it's location to the right of zero indicates that the greenhouse gases have a greater impact. Commented Feb 6, 2019 at 22:33
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1@PoloHoleSet, what adjustment would you suggest to better match the graphic and the underlying message? Commented Feb 6, 2019 at 22:50
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2Well.... "it's not the only cause," in your "title" - and then talking mostly about a counter-acting force instead of the other warming factors. So, there, maybe "factor" instead of "cause." Maybe for that statement I highlighted, something to the effect of "can counteract a good portion" or something vague like that, since we've actively worked to reduce aerosol emissions, so trying to somehow equate the two even for comparison purposes would be somewhat problematic. Commented Feb 6, 2019 at 22:55
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1Here is another diagram from AR5, which states that the effect of GHG is responsible for more than the observed warming since 1951, i.e. the net effect of everything else is negative (and that the natural effects are small, most likely approximately zero) ar5-syr.ipcc.ch/ipcc/sites/default/files/AR5_SYR_Figure_1.9.png See also forcings relative to 1751 ar5-syr.ipcc.ch/ipcc/sites/default/files/AR5_SYR_Figure_1.4.png– user18604Commented Feb 7, 2019 at 18:02
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1@DikranMarsupial, that means that my answer is helpful! A big reduction in aerosols could also cause global warming and probably already has. Commented Feb 7, 2019 at 19:38