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Boiled Lobster
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I have just read Cracked.com's "9 Ridiculous Cooking Myths You Probably Believe", that claims:

[...] because [the lobster's] nervous system isn't very complex, so it's feeling little to no pain.

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It references an ABC News article:

But animals with simple nervous systems, like lobsters, snails and worms, do not have the ability to process emotional information and therefore do not experience suffering, say most researchers.

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The Lobster Institute agrees:

... The nervous system of a lobster is very simple – not unlike that of an insect. Neither insects nor lobsters have brains.

For an organism to perceive pain it must have a more complex nervous system. Neurophysiologists tell us that lobsters, like insects, do not process pain.

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But PETA disagrees:

Contrary to claims made by seafood sellers, scientists have determined that lobsters, like all animals, can feel pain.

"As an invertebrate zoologist who has studied crustaceans for a number of years, I can tell you the lobster has a rather sophisticated nervous system that, among other things, allows it to sense actions that will cause it harm. … [Lobsters] can, I am sure, sense pain."
—Jaren G. Horsley, Ph.D

Is the neurosphysiology of a lobster complex enough to allow it to feel pain?

I'm consciously not giving a specific *definition* of pain here, because neither of the above do. But I'm aware that the answer may differ depending on how pain is defined.

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  • There is a quote from a doctor that says they do.. Suffering is not the same as pain. Suffering is an emotion response to pain which is a different question than you have asked. You can feel the unpleasant sensation of pain even with out the memory to suffer the pain that would linger after the pain leaves. You have a doctors quote which covers your question. If you are not willing to accept that then I am not sure what you would accept.
    – Chad
    Commented Jan 12, 2012 at 18:52
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    That article is a disaster. We can probably get 10 questions out of it :-(
    – Sklivvz
    Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 11:33
  • It would be interesting to know, how long it takes for the lobster to die in cooking water. Several seconds, one second, a tenth of a second? Commented Jan 14, 2012 at 5:23
  • Much as I'd hate to give PETA even the semblance of credence, I'd argue that until and unless we know for an incontrovertible fact that they don't feel pain we probably should err on the side of caution and not boil them alive... Commented Jun 30, 2015 at 13:38
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    @Shadur - a basic nervous reaction to harm or injury is not the same as "pain." We can map areas of the brain that are enervated by a pain reaction. If those brain structures do not exist, then, as we know it, "pain" is not experienced by those creatures. No need to give PETA credence they don't deserve, IMO Commented Feb 27, 2017 at 22:30

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In short, we can assume that they do.

There are two layers to this problem:

  • whether crustaceans experience stimuli which could correspond to pain
  • if those stimuli are effectively pain

The second question is really hard to answer, and I would say, fundamentally philosophical. When does rubbing become scratching?

So please bear in mind that I would find very surprising that a good answer can be given to the second question.

The first question is quite easy to answer and the latest studies confirm (convincingly) that crustaceans do feel stimuli corresponding to noxious actions and that they take action to avoid the stimuli.

The first study I will mention is "Nociception or pain in a decapod crustacean?".

Shrimp (Penaeus monodon)source

In this experiment prawns were subjected to negative stimuli (sodium hydroxide on their antennae) to see if they affected short- and long- term behaviour. They did. The scientists also used benzocaine (a painkiller) to test if it pain-killers were effective. They were.

These results indicate an awareness of the location of the noxious stimuli, and the prolonged complex responses indicate a central involvement in their organization. The inhibition by a local anaesthetic is similar to observations on vertebrates and is consistent with the idea that these crustaceans can experience pain.

The second study that I present is "Pain experience in hermit crabs?"

Hermit Crab (Pagurus armatus)

In this experiment, electric shocks were given to hermit crabs inside their shells and observe that:

Only crabs given shocks evacuated their shells indicating the aversive nature of the stimulus, but fewer crabs evacuated from a preferred species of shell indicating a motivational trade-off. Some crabs that evacuated attacked the shell in the manner seen in a shell fight. Most crabs, however, did not evacuate at the stimulus level we used, but when these were subsequently offered a new shell, shocked crabs were more likely to approach and enter the new shell. Furthermore, they approached that shell more quickly, investigated it for a shorter time and used fewer cheliped probes within the aperture prior to moving in.

They conclude that:

Thus the experience of the shock altered future behaviour in a manner consistent with a marked shift in motivation to get a new shell to replace the one occupied. The results are consistent with the idea of pain in these animals.

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