Timeline for Are These Legitimate Tossed-Away Votes For President Trump Found At An Oklahoma Wedding?
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| Nov 13, 2020 at 14:02 | history | edited | DJClayworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 13, 2020 at 3:07 | comment | added | user11643 | This answer is blatantly shirking the requirement for citations. Add some or it will be deleted. | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 14:59 | comment | added | DJClayworth | I just upvoted that answer myself, and I encourage others to do so too. It was only just posted, and it's a much better answer than mine. | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 14:54 | comment | added | Zibbobz | I appreciate that Oddthinking's use of words is a bit inflammatory here, but he makes a good point - this answer provides a lot of discussion on reasons why it seems unreliable, but does not cite any source to support it - at the very least citation for similar assumptions (voter fraud actually reported to authorities, examples of valid ballots to compare). This answer is not without merit, but the criticism is reasonable, and it's why I've elected to accept the newly-posted answer that does cite the Oklahoma State Election Board's discrediting of the story. | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 14:42 | comment | added | DJClayworth | If you believe the massive outpourings of evidence-free accusations from extremist right-wing sites to be "a gun" and the truth coupled with real analysis to be "a knife" then I am proud to be bringing a knife to a gunfight. "The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong". | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 14:33 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | This answer is bringing a knife to a gunfight. In the red corner, The Gateway Pundit, a news site that is one of the top 1000 web sites in the world (According to Alexa, but I am rather dubious. Really?) explicitly claims X. In the Blue Corner, a couple of random Internet denizens have posted comments here saying that, in their opinion, X doesn't seem likely, given the circumstantial evidence. Why should anyone believe this? The premise of this site is that we bring in referenced evidence, not IMOs, to evaluate the claims. | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 14:09 | history | edited | DJClayworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 12, 2020 at 14:04 | history | edited | DJClayworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 12, 2020 at 14:01 | comment | added | DJClayworth | @Oddthinking "Citation needed". If they had reported this it would be national news, just like the alleged ballots reported in the dumpster in Georgia. | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 13:59 | comment | added | DJClayworth | @Oddthinking From the second link "A wedding was hosted in the same building where voting had taken place the week prior." If there is conflicting information about when the wedding took place, that reduces the credibility even more. Also polls close at 7pm in Oklahoma. Is it really likely that a wedding is booked into a polling station for that evening after polls have closed and the cleanup finishes? | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 12:51 | comment | added | Zibbobz | @Oddthinking Given the upload date of the video and other sources reporting it as a week after the election day, it seems like the first article is incorrect about the day on which this occurred. | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 8:51 | comment | added | Paul Johnson | @NateEldredge Procedures will vary, but an account of working in a Pennsylvania polling station says that ballot papers were counted out when issued and then counted by the machine during voting, and the totals compared. Spoiled ballot papers are kept as part of the evidence that no ballots were dumped. portal.drewdevault.com/2020/11/10/2020-Election-worker.gmi | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 3:46 | history | notice added | Oddthinking♦ | Needs citation | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 3:45 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | "Several days elapsed between voting and the alleged wedding" - According to the first link the wedding was held "where voting took place earlier in the day," so this needs a reference. | |
| Nov 12, 2020 at 3:43 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | "They have not done that." Citation-needed | |
| Nov 11, 2020 at 22:12 | comment | added | DJClayworth | I'm sure Rudy Giuliani would have taken it off their hands. But you are right, theoretically the people might have been so dumb they found evidence of massive electoral fraud threatening the country and decided to put it on social media but not keep it.. That's why I write "no credible evidence" rather than "this is false". | |
| Nov 11, 2020 at 21:56 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | "The most obvious deficiency...": On the other hand, many people who may be inclined to suspect fraud may also be people who would not trust the "relevant authorities" to investigate properly, and who would see announcing it to the general public as a more effective way to stimulate action. I wouldn't write off the claim on this basis alone (though I would on many other bases). | |
| Nov 11, 2020 at 21:52 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | And of course in a place where the majority of voters support Trump, it would stand to reason that the majority of spoiled ballots would be marked for him. Especially since US President is usually the first race on any ballot, so most people would already have marked their vote for that race before they got to wherever they made a mistake. | |
| Nov 11, 2020 at 21:50 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | Or what about spoiled ballots? Someone is filling out their ballot and they make a mistake, so they ask for a new one. I don't know what the normal procedure for that would be in Oklahoma, but throwing the old one in the trash, maybe after ripping it up so that it isn't mistaken for a valid ballot, wouldn't seem totally unreasonable. | |
| Nov 11, 2020 at 19:41 | history | answered | DJClayworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |