Timeline for Does drinking distilled kerosene cure cancer?
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| Jul 30, 2022 at 9:54 | comment | added | Shadur-don't-feed-the-AI | If you die from drinking "distilled kerosene", you don't die from cancer, maybe they think that counts? | |
| Jun 28, 2022 at 0:00 | comment | added | Loren Pechtel | @CortAmmon I think that's the idea--if it doesn't cure their cancer there's an obvious reason: Wrong stuff. Never mind that the right stuff by definition doesn't exist... | |
| Jun 27, 2022 at 1:21 | comment | added | Ray Butterworth | Is there such a thing as non-distilled kerosene? | |
| Aug 14, 2017 at 3:26 | comment | added | Loren Pechtel | @CortAmmon Or setting up a simple explanation for the failures--the temperature was too high, that wasn't the right stuff, thus the fact that didn't work isn't evidence I'm wrong. | |
| Aug 10, 2017 at 15:24 | comment | added | Mikey Mouse | I love the "proven through research". Not trials and experimentation that proves things then? | |
| Aug 9, 2017 at 20:48 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackSkeptic/status/895386369048150016 | ||
| Aug 9, 2017 at 13:17 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | @Nat: We have long accepted a short-cut that if you can find an expert to say there is no scientific evidence for a claim, that is sufficient (notwithstanding the appeal to authority fallacy). However, a random user of Skeptics isn't sufficient, because who knows if they searched for the right terms? | |
| Aug 9, 2017 at 13:13 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | @Mark: While a general principle of skepticism is that the burden of proof is put on the claimant, Skeptics.SE is weird in that it shifts that burden of proof onto the answerer. If all claimants provided sufficient evidence for their claims, there would be no need for the site. Instead, it allows people who hear unsubstantiated claims to learn what evidence exists.This means some questions must be left unanswered, because the claim is made in the complete absence of evidence in either question. | |
| Aug 9, 2017 at 3:01 | vote | accept | Divin3 | ||
| Aug 9, 2017 at 1:16 | comment | added | Nat | Gave this one a shot by pointing out that researchers looking into carcinogens have classified kerosene as not being related to cancer. This isn't quite as strong as a direct claim about it not curing cancer, though I think that the implication's strong enough to qualify as at least a partial answer. | |
| Aug 9, 2017 at 1:09 | comment | added | Mark | @Nat - It's certainly not reasonable to expect an answer to show peer-reviewed studies showing that kerosene doesn't cure cancer. But the burden of proof for a claim like this is on the person making the claim, not the one disputing it. The "proof" in the links is nothing more than very vague anecdotes. There is no reasonable basis for believing it to be true, much less a properly controlled, peer-reviewed study. | |
| Aug 9, 2017 at 1:00 | answer | added | Nat | timeline score: 15 | |
| Aug 9, 2017 at 0:13 | comment | added | DenisS | There's a relevant xkcd for everything | |
| Aug 8, 2017 at 23:43 | history | edited | Oddthinking♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Inlined links. Quoted claims. Played down personal story angle - we are not a self-help site, but understanding the motivation does assist in answering.
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| Aug 8, 2017 at 19:17 | comment | added | Nat | @CortAmmon A lot of stuff would come out of that range, with the exact composition depending on the crude that was distilled. You can probably find a components analysis to get a rough idea. | |
| Aug 8, 2017 at 19:14 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | @Divin3 I could make it an answer if you like. I chose to make it a comment because while terminology matters in chemistry, quibbling over it doesn't always help. My answer does not prove that the distilled hydrocarbons that arise from 100-150C distillation temperatures don't kill cancer, but it does question the credibility of the author because they don't know their terminology. I'd need to find out what actually comes out of that temperature range. Off hand, it looks like mostly octane. | |
| Aug 8, 2017 at 19:13 | comment | added | Nat | @Divin3 SE.Skeptics has requirements about the forms that answers are allowed to take. While I'm hoping that we improve on this, some prior policies would've required a question like this to be answered based on peer-reviewed studies that demonstrated that ingesting kerosene doesn't cure cancer - and it'd be hard to find such a study because no one in their right mind should want to do that. | |
| Aug 8, 2017 at 19:07 | comment | added | Divin3 | Look, I was always bad at chemistry and biology, this is why I ask and read before I do something stupid. Forgive me for wasting your time but if there is even one positive method (I don't say cure but if anything that can help the odds or delay the inevitable), I want to try. @CortAmmon - could you convert your comment into an answer with some more details and links? | |
| Aug 8, 2017 at 18:49 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | An interesting tidbit: " It is extremely important to use kerosene which has been distilled at temperature between 100-150' C." Wikipedia states that Kerosene is a compound distilled between 150C and 275C. This suggests, from the start, that what the author is calling kerosene may not even be the same thing as what everyone else calls kerosene.\ | |
| Aug 8, 2017 at 18:11 | history | edited | Divin3 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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