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No. Quoting user Yaverland from Reddit: This blog goes into great detail about the paper published by The Lancet. In addition to the point that "The Lancet" doesn't classify anything, rather it published a paper online that may or may not stand up to further scrutiny... There was one reference to fluoride in the entire study, which was ...


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"Fluoride" is fluoride-containing compounds, such as sodium fluoride or sodium monofluorophosphate. Prozac aka the fluoxetine molecule contains fluorine atoms. The first "rat poison" I thought of was warfarin which doesn't contain fluorine atoms, but looking through a list of other rat poisons there's at least one i.e. fluoroacetamide ...


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Politifact gave this old story about the Nazis and fluoride a "Pants On Fire" rating: "Truth about fluoride doesn't include Nazi myth" ...We tracked down roots of these claims on the Web, reached out to Holocaust historians, contacted well-known critics of water fluoridation, and read book excerpts and magazine articles and news stories. And we can tell ...


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There are several false claims in the site quoted. The arguments seem to be based on a "petition" to the FDA (filed as Docket 00P-1602) from then politician John V. Kelly. The main thesis seems to consist of the following claims: Sodium Flouride was only used as rat poison, in bulk, prior to 1938. It was not considered as an anti-cavity treatment until ...


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As for claim, that "98% of Europe banned water fluoridation". Without going much into detail: population of European Union is 503 million; according to claim's source, following EU countries have at least one active fluoridation program: UK (62mln, 11% using fluoridated water) Spain (47mln, 11% using fluoridated water) Poland (39mln, 1% using fluoridated ...


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Reference - Marcus v. United States Environmental Protection Agency, 92-TSC-5 (ALJ Dec. 3, 1992) Contentions of The Parties Dr. William Marcus (Complainant) alleges that he was subjected to a hostile work environment and later terminated because of a memo he drafted and released that warned of potential harm from the use of fluoride, contrary to the U.S. ...


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Yes, fluoridated water works to reduce dental caries in children. This answer originally consisted of one study based in the USA. This was revealed to be insufficient by a significant edit to @Skeptic's answer, which contained eight similar studies from different regions, drawing different results. In such situations, where there are conflicting studies, ...


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Chlorine does evaporate, so if exposed to air (e.g. in a bucket) in warm water (especially under UV light or sunlight) it will probably mostly dissipate overnight. Both fluoride and chloramine will not similarly dissipate, if you want them removed you need to filter them out (e.g. with activated carbon) or distill the water. See: Can You Remove Fluoride ...


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According to this report "fluoridation schemes operate in five countries in Europe -- in the UK, The Irish republic, Spain, Poland ans Serbia", for a total coverage of about 13,677,000 people (even in those countries only some parts are covered). Excluding Serbia and Poland that would be 13.397,000. According to Google Western Europe has a population of ...


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The "poisonous" aspect has already been addressed, but what about that "pineal gland" claim? The pineal gland is located in the brain of vertebrates, and regulates sleep patterns through the production of melatonin. As this is related to both daily and seasonal light changes, the gland does act on visual information, but that information comes from the ...


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There is significant discussion of this issue in Fluoride in Drinking Water: Scientific Review of EPA's Standards (2006), particularly in chapter 8, Effects on the Endocrine System. This book is a publication of the US National Research Council. As with other calcifying tissues, the pineal gland can accumulate fluoride (Luke 1997, 2001). Fluoride has ...


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Some additonal points: Is fluoride in water an industry waste product? it is an "industry waste product" of the fertilizer industry just as platinum, gold and silver are industrial waste products from copper electro refining they are by-products in the anode sludge. (Not all industrial "waste" is bad!) Main product: copper (15.8 million t/a or ca. 125 ...


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Fluoride Alert is an anti-fluoridation group and has no credibility in the scientific community. The fluoride in toothpaste has a concentration of 1,000 to 1,500 ppm of fluoride (which is considerably higher than fluoridated water at 0.7 ppm). A small child would need to eat approximate two tubes of toothpaste in order to become seriously ill. However, ...


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By Region The following studies from different regions suggest that fluoridation does not reduce dental caries: Kuoio, Finland There was no increase in caries when water fluoridation ended in Kupio, Finland during the following three years. Caries in the primary dentition, after discontinuation of water fluoridation, among children receiving ...


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The Grandjean (China) studies could be not replicated in other countries using a lower standard of water fluoridation, particularly in New Zealand, which uses a similar level of fluoridation as the US. Quoting relevant bits of the 2015 PHS recommendation on this matter: IQ and other neurological effects. The standard letters and approximately 100 unique ...


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The scary implication here is that you or your children could be dying of fluoride poisoning, and there is no way your doctor could ever know, because there isn't a single blood test that will report on the fact. The truth is that the medical profession can diagnose fluoride poisoning. In the paragraph above the line you cite: The earliest signs are ...


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There is significant discussion of this issue in Fluoride in Drinking Water: Scientific Review of EPA's Standards (2006), particularly in chapter 8, Effects on the Endocrine System. This book is a publication of the US National Research Council. In humans, changes in melatonin are associated with the status of the reproductive system—onset of puberty, ...


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Q. 1: Are the findings in the study accurately reflected in the article? In the study, as described on Food Research International: Human exposure assessment of fluoride from tea (Camellia sinensis L.): A UK based issue?, they measured the amounts of fluoride in various teas and then only commented (not investigated) their possible side effects as described ...


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There does seem to be evidence that fluoride in water can aid the bioavailability of aluminum, at least in rabbits. "Al levels in tibia were significantly increased by the addition of F to the drinking water, even in animals receiving no Al in their drinking water." Interactive effects of fluoride and aluminum uptake and accumulation in bones of rabbits ...


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Skeptic would undoubtedly want to know about the systematic reviews done on fluoridation. They are listed here on the CDC website: http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/safety/systematic.htm In short, these reviews find that fluoridation is cost-effective and safe. There are some recommendations for further research.


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A recent carefully conducted study clearly says there is no relationship Fabian's answer addresses the consensus and the problems with the reported methods (or their lack) of the Chinese studies quoted by the anti-fluoride movement. But a recently reported and carefully conducted study from New Zealand specifically studies the reported link between intake of ...


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The answer to the question about Mullenix losing her position after the publication of the article is that it is true per Christopher Bryson's book: On May 18,1994 -- just days after the paper had been accepted -- Forsyth fired Mullenix (23). Concerning the wrongful termination suit that she filed against her former employer which was settled out of ...


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Are there currently no tests available to diagnose fluoride [...] toxicity? Susheela, A.K. and Das, T.K. 1988 Fluoride toxicity and fluorosis: diagnostic test for early detection and preventive medicines adopted in India. [Abstract], International Symposium on Environmental Life Elements and Health, Beijing, 89. World health organisation - Fluoride in ...


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Yes, fluoride is dangerous, if consumed in excess, of any source. But also no: real tea (that is made from Camellia sinensis plant, which has relatively high levels of fluoride) consumed in usual amounts (compared as 'usual consumer behaviour' like in high-amount tea drinking populations like Frisia, Ireland, Turkey, China, Japan or the UK) are unlikely ...


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Cannot confirm the above, but there are plenty of examples where cavities rates went DOWN when fluoridation ended, for example: Caries frequency before and after discontinuation of water fluoridation in Kuopio, Finland In spite of discontinued water fluoridation, no indication of an increasing trend of caries could be found in Kuopio. The mean numbers ...


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She was dismissed, or her contract not renewed, because she was not successful in winning grant money. The substance of her challenge to that decision was based on discrimination as a female. Fluoride didn't come into the legal proceedings. The document describing the legal action: MULLENIX v. FORSYTH DENTAL INFIRMARY FOR CHILDREN As you can see from this ...


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Mullenix's experience was described in a recent book by Freeze and Lehr called The Fluoride Wars. This book claims to take a neutral position on the controversy. Three days after telling her superiors that her 1995 paper [20] had been accepted, she was dismissed from her position. She sued for wrongful dismissal and received an out-of-court settlement....


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Clearly there are harmful components, otherwise studies such as this wouldn't exist: Comparison of hydrofluorosilicic acid and pharmaceutical sodium fluoride as fluoridating agents—A cost–benefit analysis http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1462901113000087 From the abstract: "The U.S. could save $1 billion to more than $5 billion/year by ...


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