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Apparently Teflon (PTFE) will release toxic fumes when overheated. See this article for a lot of claims without references. You can also kill birds with it.

The claim is that heating Teflon over its melting point of 500 Fahrenheit (260 °C) will release the fumes.

  • Is 500F/260C an achievable temperature on a stove while cooking?
  • Will those fumes stay in the food you're preparing, and are they toxic when ingested?
  • Are there other chemicals being released?

Is using non-stick cookware really dangerous?

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260 degrees is almost unreachable. Water of course boils at 100 degrees, keeping the temperature down. When cooking with fats and oils, you always keep the temperature below the smoke point. Those are generally below 260 degrees, except for some rare oils.

Even then, you rarely heat oil just for the sake of it: there's usually something in the oil, and that will burn. This will produce acrylamide (a cancer-causing chemical) at temperatures well below 260 degrees.

The real risk is an empty pan. Heating that will cause a quick rise in temperature, as there's nothing to keep the inside cool.

For toxicity, I'll assume human toxicity. I don't think the danger to birds is disputed. As is usual with toxicity, the important part is the dose. Here we see a bit of a problem with the EWG site linked in the quqestion: they're using scare tactics. Their standard for doses is "have been detected". Not medical risk. The FDA continues to list Teflon as "safe for cooking"

As for "other chemicals being released", it's hard to measure this. Cooking releases hundreds, if not thousands of different chemicals. Many of them you can smell; you'd call them "flavors" or "aroma's". Non-stick pans are hardly unique in this respect.

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  • +1. Small caveat: Pizza needs to be prepared at higher temperatures for crispness. But most household ovens don’t even reach those temperatures so this is only relevant when working with a stone oven. Sep 20, 2011 at 12:15
  • Hmmm... thinking about this, when you prepare e.g. a steak in a non-stick pan the cooking fat won't coat the entire pan, it will coalesce, leaving areas of the pan uncovered. A methane flame burns at >900C so following your reasoning that would mean areas of the pan could overheat and release the gases. So then Teflon would only be safe for your parrot if you use enough fat to cover the entire pan surface.
    – w00t
    Sep 20, 2011 at 20:16
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    It is quite common for Ovens in the US to reach 500-600 for broiling. Not to mention even some electric burners can reach 1000f well above 260C.
    – Chad
    Sep 21, 2011 at 15:32
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    @w00t - Re: Cooking Steaks: Most teflon pans I have seen are aluminium. The thermal conductivity of aluminium is quite high. Therefore, the ability for the pan to form "hot spots" on areas without food cooling them low. The uncovered areas will be cooled by nearby cooled areas. As an example, heat a aluminium pan, and then dunk one edge in water. The whole pan will cool quite rapidly.
    – Fake Name
    Sep 21, 2011 at 21:43
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    @StefanRådström: Since it's non-stick, it doesn't tend to stick to your intestines either. It's also inert, meaning that it doesn't break down into chemicals which could enter your blood. Hence, there's only one way out of your body for them.
    – MSalters
    Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28
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Natural gas burns at ~2770 C so if you are heating a skillet coated in teflon over a natural gas burner you have the potential to achieve spot temps over 260 C. So It would appear the the answer to your first question is yes 260C is achievable on a common household stove. Even DuPont the maker of teflon agrees that it is possible and should be avoided.

There has been a link to reproductive problems with gases released by Teflon pans

As for birds DuPont recognizes that the gases pose a danger to them.

There are nonstick pans that are non-PTFE that would not have these problems.

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  • You're seriously linking to anti-fluoridation stuff? That guy is a surgeon, btw, not a dentist or statistician.
    – dtanders
    Sep 21, 2011 at 15:57
  • @dtanders - Ad-Hominim attack on the author aside... The op wants information on the gases released and if they are a health risk and that document contained valid information reguardless of its stance on the subject.
    – Chad
    Sep 21, 2011 at 16:12
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    Fluorine gas and fluoride ions are two very different compounds, despite being the same chemical element, and very likely irrelevant as you haven't shown that those are degradation products of PTFE. The chemicals released from overheated PTFE are likely a very complicated mixture of organofluorines. Your link about reproductive problems is about PFOA which is used in PTFE production, but you haven't shown that it is released from overheated PTFE. And as always, the dose makes the poison and you don't have any data on the actual amounts of released chemicals.
    – Mad Scientist
    Sep 21, 2011 at 16:51
  • @Chad - pointing out that the author of the quackery you linked to seems to have no relevant experience in the field he's claiming to be an authority in is not an Ad-Hom because not everyone with an MD after their name is an equally reliable or believable source of information on every aspect of health. Anyway, here are some more reliable links regarding water fluoridation
    – dtanders
    Sep 21, 2011 at 17:26
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    @Chad It's spelled fluoride, and you're still mixing up very different chemicals, nobody is talking about fluorine or fluorides, the compounds that are created by overheating PTFE are mostly organofluorines or fluorocarbon compounds. You're jumping to conclusions based on a fundamental misunderstanding of chemistry, pretty much everything you state in the post is either not directly relevant to teflon cookware or based on extremely dubious science (the anti-fluoridation stuff).
    – Mad Scientist
    Sep 22, 2011 at 17:04

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