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Recently many Christian commentators have told me that a Christian prophet by the name of Kim Clement predicted a wide array of events like the Russo-Ukranian War.

This video summarises Kim Clement's prophecies, and starts:

Russia! My spirit has moved away for a small season. Your ambition has offended me, says the Lord. You ambition and your taste for power has offended me. Therefore, I will teach you a lesson, says the Lord.

I want to know if the video is accurate in its dating of the prophecies and if these events could be predicted without "supernatural intervention"?

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    Do they mention Ukraine, war, and a time period? If not, this is "I predict something bad will happen to you".
    – Schwern
    Commented Dec 19, 2022 at 1:18
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    "if the video is accurate in its dating of the prophecies" — but the question doesn't mention anything about dates. Commented Dec 19, 2022 at 4:15
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    "summarises Kim Clement's prophecies" — all of Clement's prophecies, or only those that are now claimed to have come true? Commented Dec 19, 2022 at 4:16
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    Even the authors of the SU-27 Flanker video game in 1995 predicted it better. Commented Dec 19, 2022 at 10:54
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    All very vague predictions eventually come true in some way, even those byNostradamus. Commented Dec 19, 2022 at 11:42

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The prediction is extremely vague.

There are (almost) no specifics in the statements. No timeline. No mention of a war. Ukraine is mentioned only once in the video. Just vague statements like "i will teach you a lesson". It's stream of consciousness.

Most of the video is after the 2014 annexation of Crimea; you don't need supernatural powers to predict they might come to blows. However, there is a portion from August 7, 2013 before the annexation. It is transcribed below. (Sorry for the lack of punctuation, it's hard to tell when one sentence ends and one begins.) It is largely gibberish and never mentions Ukraine nor a war.

russia my spirit has moved away for a small season your ambition has offended me says the lord your ambition and your taste for power has offended me therefore i will teach you a lesson says the lord forget all these numbers they're throwing out there in the soil of this nation and above and below is enough to clear that debt and put us in a place well i won't say it we can say to what's that what's that group OPEC shove it we've got our own resources you've stolen from us for too long

What about Estonia?

Ukraine is mentioned only once in the video, Estonia is mentioned twice. Russia did not invade Estonia.

that once again within a few months you will look and say is this the one that fooled the nations is this the one that had the nations petrified for god said light shall shine from nations that are in obscurity now from ukraine light shall shine and i will defend that nation and light shall shine says the lord from estonia and they shall say but they the troublemakers and i will take a little little child-like nation to bring to its knees

great britain now listen no we no the norwegian territories scandinavian territories but estonia what are you doing there are those praying and demonic powers are terrorized

What happened on April 14th?

He provides one specific date, April 14th of an unknown year when "shiftings" will happen.

look to the 14th of april and there shall be shiftings that will take place|

The Moscova was sunk April 14th, 2022. While dramatic, this event did not have a major impact on the war.

If one were to point to a major shift in the war around that time it would be the retreat of Russia from Kyiv on April 7th. I guess he overlooked that one.

We still don't know what the outcome will be.

The theme, when there is a theme, is Russia and Putin will be punished. We still don't know if that's the case. Putin is still in power. Russia still occupies a significant portion of Ukraine. Putin may yet come out the victor, we don't know.

Cherry picking.

As Ray Butterworth pointed out in the comments...

[does the video summarize] all of Clement's prophecies, or only those that are now claimed to have come true?

If this video is typical of Clement, he says a lot of things. It would be very easy to pick only the ones which came true... or in this case, happen to contain a few words which match the current headlines.

To claim Clement is making predictions, rather than being a stopped clock, one would have to analyze the whole corpus of his pronouncements.

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  • This was my first skeptical instinct, but the video claims to be from 2013.
    – Avery
    Commented Dec 19, 2022 at 3:41
  • @Avery True, the very first part is prior to the annexation. It doesn't mention Ukraine. I've adjusted the answer.
    – Schwern
    Commented Dec 19, 2022 at 4:54
  • There was a significant Russian cyberattack on Estonia in 2007, it was even in April, though later in the month, on the 27th. Not that this lends any more credibility to the "prediction" or anything... Commented Dec 19, 2022 at 19:19
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    @DarrelHoffman The mentions of Estonia are from 2014.
    – Schwern
    Commented Dec 19, 2022 at 19:28
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    @John This is supposed to be a prediction. Rather than hunting for a match, ask what predictive power does if have? Could one reasonably guess he was talking about a deal for fighter jets? How many other things could have potentially matched? For example, what if there was an international trade dispute about Indian steel tarrifs? And why is a corruption charge that went nowhere significant? Also the Rafale is mostly made of composites, aluminum, and titanium, not steel. dassault-aviation.com/en/defense/rafale/…
    – Schwern
    Commented Dec 20, 2022 at 7:01

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