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There is a book called 108 eternal truths which claims many things which have been proved wrong on this site.

It makes the following claims about vedas describing the planetary system.

The Vedas are the most holy books for Hindus.

All three are from Rigveda.

  1. mitro dādhāra prthavimūtadyām mitraḥ krstiḥ (Rigveda 3.5.59.1)

Sun, with his attracting force is holding this earth and the other celestial bodies

  1. Trinābhicakramajaramanaryvam yenemā viśvā bhūvanāni tasthūḥ (Rigveda 1.164.1)

All the celestial bodies (Planets) are moving in elliptical orbits.

  1. Cakrāṇāsaḥ pariṇahaṁ pṛthivyā (Rigveda 10.189.1)

Moon being the sub planet of earth, is revolving around its motherly planet earth and earth is revolving around its fatherly planet sun.

Edit: Found more on Quora

https://www.quora.com/What-do-the-Vedas-and-astronomical-texts-have-to-say-about-the-planets-and-their-environment

Shape of Earth is like an Oblate Spheroid —(Rig Veda XXX. IV.V).

“The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins.” — (Rig Veda 10.149.1)

“The Sun does never set nor rise. When people think the Sun is setting it is not so. For after having arrived at the end of the day it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making night to what is below and day to what is on the other side having reached the end of the night, it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making day to what is below and night to what is on the other side. In fact, the Sun never sets” — (Aitareya Brahmana 3.44)

The gravitational effect of solar system makes the earth stable- (Rig Veda 1-103-2, 1-115-4 and 5-81-2).

The axle of the Earth does not get rusted, the Earth continues to revolve on its axle- (Rig Veda 1-164-29).

The Sun never sets or rises and it is the Earth, which rotates- (Sama-Ved 121).

Now here are my questions.

  1. Did the vedas really state or mention these facts or are these twisted, mistranslated or non-existing quotes? Meaning did Ancient Indians (at least some of them) have an accurate understanding of the i. Planetary system, ii. Day night cycles iii. Gravitation iv. Elliptical orbits v. Spherical planets
  2. Was India the first country to state or discover these facts?
  3. Were these discovered by any others from another country before?

The book mentions the source to be the following. This seems to be another book

Source: Ancient Indian Science and its relevance to modern world page 27, (Published by Rashtriya Sanskrit Vidyapeeth, Tirupathi)

http://indiainnings.in/108Facts/sun

  • The start of “The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins” is at least an approximation, but actually the emphasis is on the Earth and Heaven not moving (being bound and tied) by Savitr who elsewhere is a solar or dawn action deity but here (next verse of the hymn) is a child of the waters – Henry Aug 5 '18 at 10:10
  • Can someone replace those images with text? In the app, some of the lines look super tiny, and clicking to zoom in on the image makes it pretty much illegible. (Plus, as an image, it can’t be read by screen readers.) – Laurel Aug 5 '18 at 12:53
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To add to @DavePhD's answer, there are differences with the quotes from Quora according to the Internet Sacred Text Archive (ISTA) which hold translations by Ralph T.H. Griffith

Shape of Earth is like an Oblate Spheroid — (Rig Veda XXX.IV.V).

There are only 10 books in Rig Veda so Rig Veda XXX (30) cannot be found.

The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins. — (Rig Veda 10.149.1) - Quora

is actually

SAVITAR fixed the earth with bands to bind it, and made heaven stedfast where no prop supported. Savitar milked, as ’twere a restless courser, air, sea bound fast to what no foot had trodden. - (Rig Veda 10.CXLIX.1) - ISTA

 

“The Sun does never set nor rise. When people think the Sun is setting it is not so. For after having arrived at the end of the day it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making night to what is below and day to what is on the other side having reached the end of the night, it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making day to what is below and night to what is on the other side. In fact, the Sun never sets” — (Aitareya Brahmana 3.44) - Quora

As I am unfamiliar with the Rig Veda and Aitareya Brahmana, I cannot find this in the Internet Sacred Text Archive, but this seems to be an extention of a translation from Martin Haug (Speyer, 1906) and (Haug, 2016)

In section 3.44, among other things, the Aitareya Brahmana states (translation by Haug):

The sun does never rise or set. When people think the sun is setting (it is not so). For after having arrived at the end of the day it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making night to what is below and day to what is on the other side.

When they believe it rises in the morning (this supposed rising is thus to be explained for). Having reached the end of the night, it makes itself produce two opposite effects, making night to what is below and day to what is on the other side."

 

The gravitational effect of solar system makes the earth stable - (Rig Veda 1-103-2, 1-115-4 and 5-81-2). - Quora

is actually

He spread the wide earth out and firmly fixed it, smote with his thunderbolt and loosed the waters. Maghavan with his puissance struck down Ahi, rent Rauhiṇa to death and slaughtered Vyaṁsa. (Rig Veda 1.CIII.2) - ISTA

This is the Godhead, this might of Sūrya: he hath withdrawn what spread o’er work unfinished. When he hath loosed his Horses from their station, straight over all Night spreadeth out her garment. (Rig Veda 1.CXV.4) - ISTA

and

The Sapient One arrays himself in every form: for quadruped and biped he hath brought forth good. Excellent Savitar hath looked on heaven's high vault, and shineth after the outgoing of the Dawn. (Rig Veda 5.LXXXI.2) - ISTA

 

The axle of the Earth does not get rusted, the Earth continues to revolve on its axle- (Rig Veda 1-164-29). - Quora

is actually

He also snorts, by whom encompassed round the Cow laws as she clings unto the shedder of the rain. She with her shrilling cries hath humbled mortal man, and, turned to lightning, hath stripped off her covering robe. (Rig Veda 1.CLXIV.29) - ISTA

 

The Sun never sets or rises and it is the Earth, which rotates- (Sama-Ved 121).

This is a typo for the Sama Vida and I cannot find this reference either in the ISTA, but I found it in Know The Vedas At A Glance By Raj Kumar. Knowing that other Quora translations above are also in this book, I don't hold too much belief in this translation.

References

Haug, M. (2016). Aitareya Brahmanam of the Rigveda. Hanse. ISBN 978-3-7411-4401-1.; Viewable at Internet Archive: The Aitareya Brahmanam of the Rigveda:, pages 163-164

Speyer, J. S. (1906). A remarkable Vedic Theory about Sunrise and Sunset. Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain & Ireland 38(03): 723–727. doi:10.1017/s0035869x00035000

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    The Huag translation of Aitareya Brahmana is not 2016, it is a 1922 reprint of an 1863 translation. – DavePhD Aug 5 '18 at 13:14
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    @DavePhD - In a sense I agree. The ISBN number points to a 2016 reprint and the Internet Archive version is a 1922 reprint. The correct way to reference the newer and current in print version is to reference it as a 2016 version, even though technically it is a reprint. – Chalmondley Aug 5 '18 at 14:15
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    Might be worth commenting on the “sun does never rise or set” quote that while it does imply the earth is round, it does not imply that it orbits the sun, and (IIRC) the ancient Greeks also knew it was round - the text may have been earlier (I don’t know relative dates), but it wasn’t unique knowledge b – Bobson Aug 10 '18 at 11:54
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(This answer is only to the original part of the question, concerning 3 verses of the rig veda).

An earlier version of the claim was printed in the 7 November 2015 Hamara Prayas: The Monthly Tabloid of A. P. Mahesh Co-operative Urban Bank Ltd. Volume V, issue 11. However, instead of "3.5.59.1" (which doesn't exist) the printed version says "3.59.1" and instead of "1.164.1" the printed version says "1.164.2".

According translation by Ralph T.H. Griffith:

Rigveda 1.164.1:

OF this benignant Priest, with eld grey-coloured, the brother midmost of the three is lightning. The third is he whose back with oil is sprinkled. Here I behold the Chief with seven male children.

while Rigveda 1.164.2 is

Seven to the one-wheeled chariot yoke the Courser; bearing seven names the single Courser draws it. Three-naved the wheel is, sound and undecaying, whereon are resting all these worlds of being.

Rigveda 10.189.1:

THIS spotted Bull hath come, and sat before the Mother in the east, Advancing to his Father heaven.

(The part about rigveda "3.5.59.1" is a typo for 3.59.1, which is

MITRA, when speaking, stirreth men to labour: Mitra sustaineth both the earth and heaven. Mitra beholdeth men with eyes that close not. To Mitra bring, with holy oil, oblation

)

The OP source and printed source are not quoting the Sanskrit verses in full, only selected words. The English is not a translation of the Sanskrit, but merely statements based upon the Sanskrit.

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    In how far is this an answer to the questions (1) to (3)? Let me repeat (1): "Did the vedasa really state or mention these facts or are these twisted or mistranslated or non-existing quotes?" – in how far do the Griffith translations address this? – Schmuddi Aug 5 '18 at 6:55
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    Do the quotes that appear in the question, appear somewhere else in the text? – SIMEL Aug 5 '18 at 9:31
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    @Schmuddi I think you have your answer: the "translations" you posted are entirely false. – Paul Johnson Aug 5 '18 at 10:42
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    @PaulJohnson: Probably, but if so, why doesn't this answer state this? This reads strangely non-committal at best and rather lazy at worst. Apart from that – perhaps the "seven male children" are interpreted by Veda scholars as referring to something about the solar system, and perhaps Mitra is a symbol for the sun? A good answer would show that this is not the case, and not just throw translations at the reader. – Schmuddi Aug 5 '18 at 10:46
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    @Schmuddi Mitra has some association with the sun, but is not the sun. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitra_(Vedic) There are people that say the resurrection of Jesus in the Bible is just symbolism of the sun after the winter solstice. If you consider symbolism, you can twist the meaning of a text into many things. – DavePhD Aug 5 '18 at 13:01

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