A recent BBC article claimed:

Antifa is anti-government and anti-capitalist, and their methodologies are often perceived as more closely aligned with anarchists than the mainstream left.

Are Antifa movements anti-government generally or only in the US (or somewhere else specifically)?

  • Are you referring to existing AntiFa movements, i.e. the actual "implemenations" of the mindset, or are you asking about whether the idea of AntiFa includes being anti-government? (AntiFa being, by nature, left-leaning to left-extremist, makes anti-government leanings very likely, but I think that is coincidental and not "built in" to being anti-fascist. As usual, moderate influences are not as vocal as extremes... – DevSolar Nov 27 '17 at 11:46
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    In order to make this an examination of a notable claim, could you please quote the claim here made by a notable source? Some person on the internet isn't a notable source, but I think I can see where the BBC was making this claim. I've made an edit that refocuses this post on the BBC, and not the politics rando. – doppelgreener Nov 27 '17 at 12:57
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    I'm surprised the mods allowed this question. It seems to come down to who labels who as what. – Fizz Nov 27 '17 at 16:33
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    Just saw it. Closed as non factual. – Sklivvz Nov 27 '17 at 17:33

According to Antifa: The Antifascist Handbook:

Some antifa groups are more Marxist while others are more anarchist or antiauthoritarian. In the United States, most have been anarchist or antiauthoritarian since the emergence of modern antifa under the name Anti-Racist Action (ARA) in the late eighties.

The 2012 book ANTIFA has a chapter titled:

A little bit of anarchy is good for the soul

and also says:

They might call me “ANARCHIST” when I say maybe it's time to burn it down and start from scratch again

Anti-Facism in Britain says:

Supporters of 'Antifa' were from the anarchist tradition: Class War Federation, Anarchist Federation, Solidarity Federation, and No Platform.

Militant Anti-Fascism: A Hundred Years of Resistance says:

This 'loose network' evolved into Antifa, which was predominantly anarchist and took their cue from militant groups in Europe, especially those in Germany who developed the 'black bloc' approach. Antifa emerged around 2004...

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    Of course, "antifa" only made it into common use in the past year, and that book was published this year. There's not really any notable authority as to what the term means. – Daniel R Hicks Nov 27 '17 at 13:58
  • @DanielRHicks: The link is to a book on the subject, covering its history. What more could you hope for? – Oddthinking Nov 27 '17 at 14:33
  • @DanielRHicks I added quotes from the 2012 book ANTIFA as well. – DavePhD Nov 27 '17 at 14:34
  • So the answer is "Yes"? "Some antifa groups are more Marxist while others are more anarchist or antiauthoritarian." = anti-government, anti-government, and anti-authoritarian. Two out of three ;) – Lan Nov 27 '17 at 16:27
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    @LangLangC black-and-red color scheme is used equally by communists, anarchicsts and fascists, so I wouldn't read too deep into the flag colors. – Danila Smirnov Nov 28 '17 at 4:29

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