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According IslamReligion.com, Muhammad made a prophecy about the timing of his daughter's death:

The Prophet informed his daughter, Fatima, that she would be the first member of his family to die after him. There are two prophecies in one: Fatima will outlive her father; Fatima will be the first member of his household to die after him. Both were fulfilled.

Did Muhammad make this prophecy? Did it come true?

  • His cousin, Ali, caused a bit of a rift in the religion, because people felt that he was closely enough related. – RToyo Oct 17 '17 at 15:42
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    This may be more suitable for Islam.SE, as no skepticism is required. – Andrew Grimm Oct 18 '17 at 3:18
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this question doesn't require skeptical thinking, just expert knowledge. A claim containing suspected anti-Islam nonsense or suspected propaganda would require skepticism, but this does not appear to be nonsense or propaganda. – Andrew Grimm Oct 18 '17 at 3:21
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    @AndrewGrimm, I'm sorry, but I don't agree. I think anything IslamReligion.com says about Islam could be considered propaganda. Reading this, one can be skeptic that he said it (like any other quote question on this site) and secondly, one can be skeptic that the "prophecy" has been "fulfilled". – Jordy Oct 18 '17 at 7:43
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    I don't think one needs to resort to divine message to predict that Mohammed would predecease his daughter given that he was forty years older than she. – Clint Eastwood Jul 6 '18 at 16:34
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Question 1: Yes!

Yes you are right. Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) did make this prophecy. Its a pretty straight forward one and can be found in lot of books - even it is found in Bukhari itself, having an authentic chain of narrators:

حَدَّثَنِي يَحْيَى بْنُ قَزَعَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ سَعْدٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ ـ رضى الله عنها ـ قَالَتْ دَعَا النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَاطِمَةَ ابْنَتَهُ فِي شَكْوَاهُ الَّذِي قُبِضَ فِيهِ، فَسَارَّهَا بِشَىْءٍ فَبَكَتْ، ثُمَّ دَعَاهَا، فَسَارَّهَا فَضَحِكَتْ، قَالَتْ فَسَأَلْتُهَا عَنْ ذَلِكَ‏.‏ فَقَالَتْ سَارَّنِي النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَأَخْبَرَنِي أَنَّهُ يُقْبَضُ فِي وَجَعِهِ الَّذِي تُوُفِّيَ فِيهِ فَبَكَيْتُ، ثُمَّ سَارَّنِي فَأَخْبَرَنِي أَنِّي أَوَّلُ أَهْلِ بَيْتِهِ أَتْبَعُهُ فَضَحِكْتُ

Narrated `Aisha:

The Prophet (ﷺ) in his fatal illness, called his daughter Fatima(RA) and told her a secret because of which she started weeping. Then he called her and told her another secret, and she started laughing.

When I asked her about that, she replied, The Prophet (ﷺ) told me that he would die in his fatal illness, and so I wept, but then he secretly told me that from amongst his family, I would be the first to join him, and so I laughed."

Sahih al-Bukhari [61:130]

Question 2: Yes!

This is also correct as she(RA) was the first one to die among the Ehl-e-Bait as well: There is a disagreement on her exact death date, but its unanimously accepted by historians that she died in 632AD (the same year in which Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) died on 8th of June)

And no other member of Ehl-e-Bait died as early as 637AD (Umm ul Momineen, Maria al-Qibtiyya(RA)). Among her own family too, the first one to meet her was her own husband, Ali ibn-e-Abi Talib(RA) and that too in 661AD).

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    So if i understand this correctly, the text that you site as reference was written about 200 years after the facts? That leaves plenty of time to adjust prophecy to reality doesn't it? – Scrontch Jul 6 '18 at 14:36
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    Off course it can, but if we don't believe this, then all the history of Islam (and even of Christiantiy) is unauthentic to us. If non-Muslims historians didn't write much about the events then leaves us inevitably with the Muslim historians only and Bukhari's collection is a collection of high standards of Research. – Failed Scientist Jul 6 '18 at 15:12
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    And one should see Bukhari's collection in depth before evaluating the claim "Adjusting prophecy to reality" as he has narrated even those Ahadith/events which are totally contrary to his Believes (he being a Sunni Muslim narrated a lot of Ahadith which back the Shia sects number of claims in their favour and go against the Sunni Islam). – Failed Scientist Jul 6 '18 at 15:15
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    Having said that all, I would love to find the history of both Christianity and Islam from a "3rd person". I am seriously in research of finding some detailed historic journals of Tang Dynasty about Arab-Byzantine wars, etc. – Failed Scientist Jul 6 '18 at 15:18
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    @TalhaIrfan something that isn't a sacred Islamic text is necessary. The writers clearly have a vested interest in Muhammad being right and making predictions that come true. Furthermore, the tone of your answer is off. You should try to make your answer be as neutral in tone as possible. Your answer reads like a Muslim propaganda piece. Even if you had cited proper sources, I still would have downvoted because of the tone of the answer. – DenisS Jul 8 '18 at 20:57

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