Do pathogens have a negative ORP and beneficial bacteria a positive?

Question

As claimed on page 33 of this MMS book:

• All pathogens (poison producers) have a negative ORP.

• All beneficial bacteria have a positive ORP.

  In other words:

  The beneficial bacteria are positively charged.

• Human tissue cells also have a weak positive charge.

Are these valid claims?

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Additional clarification of the terminology:

• ORP

  All organisms and body cells and even liquids have an ORP (Oxidation Reduction Potential) that can be either positive or negative. The ORP is the electrical charge that cells exert on other things in their immediate environment. Oxidizers also have an ORP, mostly called Oxidation Potential, and all oxidizers have a positive potential.

• Pathogens

  Pathogens create a waste material that is poisonous to the body.

• Beneficial bacteria

  Beneficial bacteria do not generate any poisonous material.

Answer 1

The beneficial strain of E. coli K-12 has a negative ORP. Therefore, the original claim cannot be universally true.

Furthermore, E. coli is a facultative anaerobe, which means it can survive in both oxygenated and oxygen-free environments. Since some strains of E. coli are pathogens, this means that the claims elsewhere in that document that oxygen kills pathogens but preserves beneficial organisms are also false.

Source:

• Extracellular Oxidoreduction Potential Modifies Carbon and Electron Flow in Escherichia coli - Riondet, et al.

Answer 2

Pathogens create a waste material that is poisonous to the body.

The more common definition of pathogen is that it does harm to its host - see abstract of this interesting looking paper "What is a pathogen?" which notes that "pathogen" is mutually defined with "host" - a pathogen for one organism may be innocuous or even beneficial to another. Similarly the location within the host matters: most strains of E. coli are beneficial in the human large intestine e.g. through vitamin K production but are a cause of urinary tract infections. So ORP by itself does not classify the bacteria.

The beneficial bacteria are positively charged.

This seemingly conflates the reduction potential with the electrostatic charge. This extensive table of electrode potentials shows that the reduction of positively charged ions can have either a positive or a negative electrode potential.

human tissue cells have a weak positive charge

Actually the cell membrane surface charge is reported to be negative. However since the context of this claim in the linked MMS book is that the positive charge repels oxygen which "is positively charged" it is probably safe to ignore it since this reasoning would apparently prevent oxygen interacting with cells too, i.e. preventing respiration.