Many different sources claim to be able to produce "unlimited free energy". For example:

Is it possible to create energy out of nowhere?

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    Solar power very nearly qualifies as "unlimited free energy". May 15, 2012 at 20:46
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    @KeithThompson Only if the solar cells are free and can be set up for nothing.
    – matt_black
    May 15, 2012 at 22:25
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    Yes, thus the "very nearly" qualifier. Presumably the companies that claim "unlimited free energy" would, if they were valid, operate under the same constraints. You have to build the perpetual motion device before you can extract energy from it. May 15, 2012 at 23:33
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    As already mentioned, "Energy out of nowhere" is physically impossible. However, "free energy out of now where" may refer to usage of existing energy sources that are practically unlimited (in terms of how long they will last, and how much energy they can produce). some examples of such sources are the sun, waves, wind, geothermic, etc. in all these cases we don't have to invest resources in the energy production it self, only in the facilities to collect it. In these cases, the cost of "producing" may drop when the relevant technologies mature. May 16, 2012 at 19:16
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    By "free" I assume you mean "after the down payment". If what you're asking is "do perpetual motion machines exist?" the answer is "no", but that doesn't stop countless scams. If what you mean by "unlimited" is "more than we might ever need in the forseeable future", then all the deuterium in seawater would, via fusion, easily do it. May 16, 2012 at 22:24

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Creating energy out of nowhere violates the first law of thermodynamics. Energy can only be changed from one form to another, e.g. from kinetic energy to heat, but it can neither be created nor destroyed.

This is an empirical law, but it has a lot of experimental evidence behind it. It would take some extremely convincing evidence to overthrow it, not to mention a whole lot of new physics.

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    Although this is the answer I was expecting, remember that it's not entirely true. You can "create" energy out of nowhere, provided that this creation lasts for a time sufficiently small. It is also known as the Uncertainty principle for energy, and allows nuclear forces to exist. In practice, it is not possible to use it to create energy, because it's not a creation, but an uncertainty, although it looks pretty close to a creation. Feb 25, 2011 at 20:53
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    @Stefano I interpreted your question to mean net energy production. The creation of virtual particles does not change the net energy of the system.
    – Mad Scientist
    Feb 25, 2011 at 21:07
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    @Fabian : totally agree. My note is more to inform a debater having to face the counterclaim that "creation" of energy is possible through the Uncertainty principle, which obviously is not. Feb 25, 2011 at 21:41
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    @user That equations does not mean that you can create energy from mass, but that mass is energy.
    – Mad Scientist
    Mar 13, 2011 at 8:02
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    No, it means you can transform mass into energy. If you did so, the mass is gone. m/2 v² = m * g * h doesn't mean 'gravity * height IS mass/2'. And you forgot the speed of light. Mar 13, 2011 at 13:49

An answer to your question can be found in Noether's theorem, which is one of the most important mathematical physics theorems.

Energy is a conserved quantity as long as physical laws are unchanging in time (as long as they display a time translation symmetry).

An archetypal example of this is the first law of thermodynamics.

Furthermore, in quantum field theory, you can create energy out mass (E=mc2), so a different conservation law is found.

The energy-momentum vector is conserved as long as physical laws are unchanging in space-time (as long as they display a space-time translation symmetry).

For example, an electron and a positron can annihilate and generate photons with much more energy than they initially had, but their mass disappears.

Finally, in general relativity, the law still holds locally. In particular, the following law still holds (and therefore there is no "free lunch" anyways, and the previous findings are still valid locally). To explain better: "local" in cosmology means "in areas of the universe the size of a galaxy".

The energy-stress-momentum tensor is locally conserved.

For completeness, there is some doubt about global (cosmological) conservation of energy. Noether's law still holds, but only locally, because the definition of energy and time is only valid locally. The consequence of this is that we don't have a general conservation theorem for energy in general relativity. For example, a universe that is expanding, and whose expansion is accelerating does not conserve energy.

A layperson's dissertation can be found here.

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    "[...] there is some doubt about global (cosmological) conservation of energy." Actually there is no doubt. Conservation of energy definitely fails globally in cosmological spacetimes according to general relativity. This is not controversial.
    – user4216
    Aug 21, 2011 at 1:08
  • Not in a flat space-time ;-)
    – Sklivvz
    Aug 21, 2011 at 7:29
  • In Asimov's novel "The god themselves" energy is extracted from another parallel universe, which in theory doesn't violate Noether theorem, because in the parallel universe there were different physics laws and constants.
    – linello
    Jul 30, 2012 at 10:25

What does "nowhere" mean? Does a metastable vacuum count as nowhere?

You could appeal to the laws of physics, or you could appeal to the maxim of "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".

Edit: There's an episode of Mythbusters where they tried various approaches, including one which wasn't so much "free energy" as "free to me energy" (taking electricity from a power line using nearby chickenwire, IIRC).


It really depends upon how you define things, as the other answers have noted, perpetual motion machines violate the laws of thermodynamics, specifically the first and sometimes the second. However, if we remove systems that extract more energy from a system than is put in, we are still left with systems that are able to extract energy to produce useful work.

If we define unlimited free energy as a device that is able to run without human energy being put in (e.g. generated electricity, mechanical motion, etc.) then there are some devices that are able to operate on their own without an obvious means of input.

aeger Le Coultre Atmos

Clocks, such as the Jaeger Le Coultre Atmos (catalog) is arguably one of the better examples of this in that it has no visible means of winding or putting energy into the system; however, it is not a perpetually motion device as it will eventually run down to to mechanical wear and tear due to the effects of friction.

However, this does raise an interesting point, while true "free energy" may not be possible, does energy extracted from existing system and used to perform useful work count as free energy? While it is obvious that there is a significant amount of energy put into the construction of the clock (or extract of wind, tidal, solar, water, etc.) the long term work produced like exceeds what humans have put into the system. This could also apply to the other forms of power generation cited which generate significantly more useful work for the amount of human work put into the system when compared to more primitive devices such as hand powered cranks.

Across the board though, the "unlimited" part of the equation is an issue as friction eventually wears things down if they are left to their own devices. Periodic maintenance can keep things running without too much effort in the scheme of things, but if that maintenance is neglected then the systems will eventually fail.

In summary, it is very unlikely we are ever going to have a means of getting something out of nothing; however, with proper application of engineering it is possible to extract more useful energy from a system than is put into extracting that energy. This arguably could be considered "low cost" or even "free" energy depending upon how much energy is invested in getting it out.

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    "there are some devices that are able to operate on their own without an obvious means of input." This is not true - unless you actually mean that the means of input is cleverly hidden so we just can't see it. Is there a claim anywhere that this clock runs without energy input as you suggest? The link is just to a catalog which allows me to buy it, but doesn't mention that.
    – Mark
    Dec 19, 2013 at 16:16
  • @Mark Yes, the Atmos clock has a very clever mechanism that doesn't require a human to physically wind it and most people can't immediately spot how the clock runs. Jaeger-LeCoultre must have recently updated their catalog since they used to explain how it works, I've updated it to use the Wikipedia link as well as the catalog link.
    – rjzii
    Dec 19, 2013 at 16:29
  • the answer is worded as if the clock does not require energy input. But it does - it just has a very clever design that gets energy from temperature changes in the room. This is explained in the instruction manual and in the Wikipedia article. I'm not clear from this answer what you're saying - there is no doubt that one can extract more energy from a system than is put into extracting that energy, we do it all the time in oil wells. But to claim this in terms of this clock is not correct. The clock consumes energy that is input by temperature changes - not its fabrication.
    – Mark
    Dec 19, 2013 at 18:59
  • @Mark That is already disclosed in the answer, "... is arguably one of the better examples of this in that it has no visible means of winding or putting energy into the system; however, it is not a perpetually motion device as it will eventually run down to to mechanical wear and tear due to the effects of friction." and I know exactly how they work, but a detailed explanation was not relevant to the answer when it was written over one year ago. It was offered as a philosophical point, "If we define unlimited free energy as a device that is able to run without human energy being put in".
    – rjzii
    Dec 19, 2013 at 19:40

"Unlimited" and "free" are two absolutes that, in this case, mean infinite energy with 0 cost. Obviously this is not possible according to present human knowledge. However, as correctly mentioned by Keith Thompson, solar power is a good approximation of "unlimited free energy". If proven true, the E-Cat technology, (claimed to be) based on a low energy nuclear reaction, could be another low cost/almost limitless energy source. Quoting the article:

The device was meant to take energy from the reaction between nickel and hydrogen and use that energy to create heat. The reaction would also produce a small amount of copper which would need to be taken out every once in a while.

Let's wait and see, even though what the scientific community has seen until now is too much marketing and too little science.


Unlimited free energy violates the SECOND (not the first law of thermodynamic).

Without the second law of thermodynamic, you can run a car and freeze the road around you at the same time. You don't violate the first law. The energy is taken from the heat you take from the road around you. It's the SECOND law of thermodynamic that you violate.

So the answer is no.

Other answer, like solar, etc. may be near unlimited. The truth is everything is limited, even the sun.


I presume the question ask about perpetual machine of the second kind, basically the interesting one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_Motion_Machine#Classification

Perpetual machine of first kind is "unnecessary". Economically speaking you can make a lot of money even if the first law of thermodynamic hold, which is what you want. The money breaker is that you can't violate the second.

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    Well, actually, in order to get free energy, you violate the first. Jul 30, 2012 at 9:06
  • Jim: You know you need references, right? Wikipedia explains there are three different types of Perpetual Motion Machine, and they violate different laws.
    – Oddthinking
    Jul 30, 2012 at 9:37
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    I know. Let me improve. I know what I am talking about. Free air conditioning for example, doesn't violate the first. Technically you are taking heat.
    – user4951
    Jul 30, 2012 at 9:41
  • I think the question means perpetual machine of the second kind. Perpetual machine of first kind is "unnecessary". Economically speaking you can make a lot of money even if the first hold.
    – user4951
    Jul 30, 2012 at 9:44
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    other answers also don't use reference because this is basic high school physics.
    – user4951
    Jul 30, 2012 at 9:49

I am far from an expert in this field but this question reminded me of this post by Phil Plait: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/11/26/black-friday/ It actually starts with a definition of the color black but it ends with the conclusion that empty space (literally empty, a vacuum with 0 molecules and 0 photons in it) still holds some sort of energy. If we one day find out how to harvest this energy we would quite literally be creating energy out of (realllllllly) thin air!

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    The Second Law of Thermodynamics says you can't get useful work out of something that's hot, but only out of a temperature differential. Mar 18, 2011 at 2:08
  • @David: As long as outer space is near absolute zero, and we can radiate to it, that's not a problem. Jun 25, 2011 at 19:28

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