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In "Google's Ideological Echo Chamber", James Damore wrote (emphasis added on claim):

On average, men and women biologically differ in many ways. These differences aren’t just socially constructed because:

  • They’re universal across human cultures

  • They often have clear biological causes and links to prenatal testosterone

  • Biological males that were castrated at birth and raised as females often still identify and act like males

  • The underlying traits are highly heritable

  • They’re exactly what we would predict from an evolutionary psychology perspective

-"Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber", James Damore (2017-07) [unverified reproduction]

The claim about biological males that were castrated at birth seems rather odd as it would require a study to have been preformed that would be highly unethical.

A search turned up David Reimer, a man who had this happen to him via a series of accidents that could be construed to have this effect. However, a single data point isn't sufficient to establish a trend.

Is there evidence to support this claim? Are there scientific instances of this type of research that relates to male and female behavior?

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  • Reopened after the excellent edit by Nat
    – Sklivvz
    Commented Aug 18, 2017 at 13:44
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    Damore doesn't define what a "biological male" is, so it's hard to evaluate his statement. He seems to imply it means a human born with a penis, but there is a broad spectrum of genitalia that could be subjected to castration. Commented May 3, 2018 at 10:59
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    @dont_shog_me_bro "Biological male" is a standard term, e.g. as in that linked Wikipedia article. Additionally, Damore's background includes a Bachelor's in Molecular Biology, a Master's in System Biology, research experience at Princeton and MIT, and part of a PhD program at Harvard (which Google poached him from); given this background, I think it's entirely reasonable to assume that he understood the terminology. Plus his statement is factually accurate under this interpretation.
    – Nat
    Commented Aug 7, 2019 at 22:26
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    @Nat if you read your own article you will see that it is talking about reproduction, not if an organism is male or female. It states that /in the lede/ and notes that the distinction is primarily if the organism produces large or small gametes, and does not establish any link between the reproductive system and other characteristics of sex or gender. For example, women with internal non-functional testis instead of ovaries is not uncommon, which has no clear definition under this scheme and does not affect their behaviour. Commented Aug 8, 2019 at 9:36
  • @dont_shog_me_bro I'm not getting the confusion; could you explain? For example, the claim is "Biological males that were castrated at birth and raised as females often still identify and act like males", which clearly refers to the "biological males" as being "raised as females" after castration, not being females after castration. Still, you seem to think that he's defining males as people with penises, even though he's clearly referring to males who don't have penises... I mean, how can we make this any clearer?
    – Nat
    Commented Aug 11, 2019 at 21:42

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tl;dr- This claim is true. It may sound weird that some biological males are castrated and then raised as though they were female, however it's been done to address a birth defect where genitals aren't properly formed. A recent survey suggests that this practice is in decline.

Other studies show that sex-specific biology affects behavior in ways that aren't reversed by genital reconstruction or social conditioning. These biological differences include hormone levels and brain structure.


Study

The central claim in this question is addressed based on "Discordant Sexual Identity in Some Genetic Males with Cloacal Exstrophy Assigned to Female Sex at Birth" (2004) which isn't behind a paywall.

Other sources seem to agree, and these findings seem to be noncontroversial from a scientific perspective. Related studies can be found by searching for literature that cites this paper.

Related:

Why are males being castrated and raised as females?

The background section explains why biological males are being castrated. In short, it's to resolve a birth defect:

BACKGROUND Cloacal exstrophy is a rare, complex defect of the entire pelvis and its contents that occurs during embryogenesis and is associated with severe phallic inadequacy or phallic absence in genetic males. For about 25 years, neonatal assignment to female sex has been advocated for affected males to overcome the issue of phallic inadequacy, but data on outcome remain sparse.

"Discordant Sexual Identity in Some Genetic Males with Cloacal Exstrophy Assigned to Female Sex at Birth" (2004-01-22)

Wikipedia describes this birth defect, cloacal exstrophy, as:

Cloacal exstrophy (EC) is a severe birth defect wherein much of the abdominal organs (the bladder and intestines) are exposed. It often causes the splitting of both male and female genitalia (specifically, the penis and clitoris respectively), and the anus is occasionally sealed.

So, what do doctors do when a patient has deformed genitals? As described in the paper:

THE CONCEPT OF SEXUAL IDENTITY IN persons with genital malformations has intrigued the medical world since Money and colleagues' pioneering studies of intersex in the 1950s.1,2 They later reasoned that an infant's sex could be assigned if corresponding genitalia were constructed during infancy and the child's upbringing corresponded to that sex.3

"Discordant Sexual Identity in Some Genetic Males with Cloacal Exstrophy Assigned to Female Sex at Birth" (2004-01-22)

The paper describes these patients as biological males with deformities rather than intersexed:

Cloacal exstrophy is not an intersex condition: aphallia and phallic inadequacy are structural anomalies.6-9,16

"Discordant Sexual Identity in Some Genetic Males with Cloacal Exstrophy Assigned to Female Sex at Birth" (2004-01-22)

Study's results

However, it was unclear what actually happened to these newborns later in life; did the assigned gender stick after given the corresponding genitals and socialization?

RESULTS Eight of the 14 subjects assigned to female sex declared themselves male during the course of this study, whereas the 2 raised as males remained male. Subjects could be grouped according to their stated sexual identity. Five subjects were living as females; three were living with unclear sexual identity, although two of the three had declared themselves male; and eight were living as males, six of whom had reassigned themselves to male sex. All 16 subjects had moderate-to-marked interests and attitudes that were considered typical of males.

"Discordant Sexual Identity in Some Genetic Males with Cloacal Exstrophy Assigned to Female Sex at Birth" (2004-01-22)

This finding seems to conclusively support Damore's claim that "Biological males that were castrated at birth and raised as females often still identify and act like males".

Gender assignment practices appear to be changing

It appears that the practice of raising biological males as female due to such structural issues is declining:

CONCLUSIONS: Although there is an association between the external appearance of the genitalia and the choice of sex assignment, there are clear temporal trends in this practice pointing toward an increased likelihood of affected infants being raised as boys. The impact of this change in practice on long-term health outcomes requires additional focus.

"Changes Over Time in Sex Assignment for Disorders of Sex Development" (2014-09)

Biology is known to cause behavioral differences

It's probably common knowledge that behavior-affecting hormones vary significantly by sex. For example, adult males have about 20 times the the testosterone level of adult females. In popular culture, testosterone is often taken to characterize male behavior.

In women the testosterone levels which were only about 5% of that of men from the same age group decreased only slightly, starting from a median of 0.9 to 0.6 nmol/l.

"Reference intervals for testosterone, androstenedione and SHBG levels in healthy females and males from birth until old age." (2005)

There're also differences in brain structure, and these differences do affect behavior:

During the intrauterine period the human brain develops in the male direction via direct action of a boy's testosterone, and in the female direction through the absence of this hormone in a girl. During this time, gender identity (the feeling of being a man or a woman), sexual orientation, and other behaviors are programmed. As sexual differentiation of the genitals takes places in the first 2 months of pregnancy, and sexual differentiation of the brain starts during the second half of pregnancy, these two processes may be influenced independently of each other, resulting in transsexuality. This also means that in the case of an ambiguous gender at birth, the degree of masculinization of the genitals may not reflect the same degree of masculinization of the brain. Differences in brain structures and brain functions have been found that are related to sexual orientation and gender.

"Sexual differentiation of the brain and behavior" (2007-09)

Due to factors like these, it's unsurprising that biological males would still exhibit stereotypical male behaviors despite having had their genitals restructured and being raised as female.

Reference: What's sex?

In humans, sex is defined by the XY sex determination-system. Most other mammals use this same system, though it can be different for insects, fish, etc..

Almost all (~99.94%) humans fall into this system, being either XX (female) or XY (male). However, some people can have an extra chromosome in some of their cells, such as in Down syndrome. Since a person with XXX chromosomes still uses just the X chromosome while a person with XXY still has a Y affecting their chemical makeup, the definition of sex has been extended to:

  • People with a Y chromosome are male.

  • People without a Y chromosome are female.

    • Almost all females are XX; but X, XXX, XXXX, XXXXX, etc., qualify.
  • People who can't really be said to be uniformly with-or-without a Y chromosome are intersexed.

The above study that this answer is based on didn't have any intersexed individuals; all males were male by the standard biological definition, not to be confused with gender identity.

DISCUSSION

Cloacal exstrophy is not an intersex condition: aphallia and phallic inadequacy are structural anomalies.6-9,16

"Discordant Sexual Identity in Some Genetic Males with Cloacal Exstrophy Assigned to Female Sex at Birth" (2004-01-22)

So, that study demonstrates that unambiguously male infants, i.e. those with XY chromosomes, still retain male behaviors despite castration and being raised female.

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    You implicitly accept a premise in the claim that "biological male" has a clear meaning. If you are going to use the phrase, could you please define what you mean by it?
    – Oddthinking
    Commented Aug 19, 2017 at 4:20
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    @pericles316 Unfortunately there probably won't be studies like this for females, mostly for logistical reasons. It's just that, when the genitals are deformed at birth, they've gotta fix them, and it's relatively difficult to make a penis (or, at least, it was); so biological males and females both got vaginas. So females get this disorder too, just they don't have gender reassignment as a consequence of it.
    – Nat
    Commented Aug 19, 2017 at 6:41
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    I'd add that the studies about hormone levels, brain structure, etc., apply across the board for both sexes. So I think that the study about reassignment's really just to demonstrate what we already know; that there're biological differences in men and women (which we can see in the brain, in hormone levels in blood, etc.), and that these differences lead to differences in behavior. It's one of those quasi-political things: some people deny it for political reasons, trying to argue that the science is undecided, but it's not; this is a decided, concluded topic.
    – Nat
    Commented Aug 19, 2017 at 6:45
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    I feel pretty confident in marking this as answered. Thanks @Nat for providing all the details. Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 19:10
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    @Nat - Here’s the thing, though: they wouldn’t necessarily have seen themselves as female. It wouldn’t even be likely. If just telling a child what their gender was supposed to be worked, transgender people wouldn’t feel dysphoria. In fact, that’s one of the major things this study shows. “Five subjects were living as females; three were living with unclear sexual identity, although two of the three had declared themselves male; and eight were living as males, six of whom had reassigned themselves to male sex.”
    – Obie 2.0
    Commented Apr 4, 2018 at 6:32
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The main problem here is the that "biological male" is not clearly defined by the memo.

Biologists usually use male/female in relation to reproduction, specifically the production of gametes. There are various medical conditions where a person either has (usually non-functional) organs for producing gametes not in line with the appearance or structure of the rest of their body.

It's possible that the author means something else here, as he seems to be discussing the psychological aspects rather than the reproductive ones.

Thus we can't say if the claim is true or not. It's likely true that cis male children who are given ill-judged and often botched surgery at birth do not adopt the gender that the doctor or their parents intended for them, but that's a very different statement to the one in the memo.

Edit: @Nat suggested that Damore may have been referring to this study. If that is the case, it is a further demonstration of how confused he was. He exchanges the term "genetic male" in the study for "biological male" in his own memo, for example.

Personally I doubt he was referring to this study. He cited his other sources, but not this one as the source of that claim. It doesn't match the language he used and his "biological male" remains undefined in the memo.

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  • Thanks for writing an answer! Could you expand on what your notion of sex is? I mean, reading your answer literally, it sounds like you'd regard a man who doesn't produce viable sperm as non-male, and women after menopause as non-female. But, I suspect that that's not actually what you mean -- so to clarify, what definition of "biological sex" are you claiming to be usual to biologists?
    – Nat
    Commented Aug 14, 2019 at 11:29
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    To clarify, the Wikipedia article you linked explains that, in humans, sex is determined by the XY sex-determination system (image). So I'm not trying to hassle you too much here, just you're linking something that explains that sex is determined by the XY-sex-determination system to support an argument that sex is determined by the production of gametes, which I'm just not sure how to interpret.
    – Nat
    Commented Aug 14, 2019 at 11:38
  • @Nat no, because my notion of sex is irrelevant. What matters is what the memo is talking about, which is not clear. I will add a note about genetics. Commented Aug 14, 2019 at 13:51
  • @Nat actually I won't, since the memo doesn't specify genetics and seems to mainly be focused on genitalia, which only ignorant laypeople use as a proxy for sex. Commented Aug 14, 2019 at 13:54
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    I'm not a troll, I just don't think answer is particularly useful or insightful.
    – Erik
    Commented Aug 15, 2019 at 11:26

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