Timeline for Did Obama have a marine demoted for correcting him?
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| Jun 14, 2015 at 22:17 | comment | added | Ben Hocking | Speaking as someone who has worked with multiple military research groups, I can definitively state that "warfighter" is the hypernym encompassing soldiers, Marines, airmen (and airwomen) and sailors. languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=4339 | |
| Jul 8, 2014 at 5:57 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | I think this answer misinterprets "relieve". The claim does not allege that the President had a marine discharged from the service, but that she was removed from her assignment to the helicopter squadron (and presumably assigned to some other unit within the Corps). Of course, in light of Flimzy's answer it seems the whole thing is moot. | |
| Oct 4, 2012 at 21:06 | comment | added | TRiG | Does the US President have access to some special physics which stops flag pins rotating? My rainbow flag pin usually ends up on its side. | |
| S Jun 9, 2012 at 5:43 | history | suggested | Mike Samuel | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 5, 2012 at 20:23 | comment | added | Chad | The CIC can put a formal letter of repremand in a Soldier's(Using the term for all men and women of the armed forces) jacket(their permanent file and would show up on all DD214's for the soldier). This letter essentially ends the career prospects of a soldier in the military. Combine this with being removed from the detail, and the soldier has no assignment and no prospects of any desirable posting. | |
| Jun 5, 2012 at 17:27 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | Snopes has chimed in. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 17:51 | comment | added | Flimzy | @mmr: As I said, it depends on location. In Mexico, the federal police and the military have very overlapping responsibilities (especially in response to the drug wars). The police often wear full green camo and carry automatic weapons. Are they engaged in police or military actions? There's little difference in many cases. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 17:46 | comment | added | Christopher | @Flimzy As mmr said, it is more of a question for English.SE. However, common terminology would have to be determined by your surroundings. My surroundings happen to be different than yours, so saying that one word 'often' means this is an impression of your environment and is very hard to communicate across culture boundaries. Not to mention but with so many experts in here, using Terms of Art is bound to attract some corrections. I meant the first subject in my answer as an awareness point, not so much as splitting hairs. Saying "a medical scan" on a neurobiology question will do the same. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 17:02 | comment | added | mmr | @Flimzy-- that sounds like an argument for English.SE-- I've never heard of or thought of a policeman as a 'soldier'. A 'policeman' polices, or upholds the law; a soldier may act in that capacity (ie, military police), but in general, that's not their main purpose. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 16:57 | comment | added | Flimzy | I think splitting hairs over the term "soldier" is a bit silly, though. Even if it has a specific meaning within the U.S. Armed Forces, it often means anyone who wears a uniform and carries a weapon. In many countries, there is little to no distinction between even "police," "soldier," and "body guard"--they are all "soldiers" (some hired by the gov't, some hired by private individuals). And if Obama had fired a policeman under identical circumstances, I would consider that corroboration of the claim. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 16:50 | comment | added | Flimzy | The word "soldier" came from me, as my interpretation of "US Army person" before the quote was added to the question. I have edited the title to now say "marine" (pending approval of the edit). | |
| May 18, 2012 at 15:35 | comment | added | Christopher | @Chad Wikipedia article on the Air Force. Read the first sentence on the linked section. Another Wikipedia article mentioning the purposes of the Marine throughout the world. Finally, the terms are used so strictly as to define the specific functions of the service members. A Soldier is defined as a member of the land component of national armed forces. Require anything else? | |
| May 18, 2012 at 15:13 | comment | added | Christopher | @Chad Indeed, I suppose this would be the place to challenge that. This site, non-credible, says "The word “soldier” ignores members of other service branches such as marines." while quoting the 1993 entry in OED. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 15:00 | history | edited | Christopher | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| May 18, 2012 at 14:40 | comment | added | Chad | * a Marine is certainly not a Soldier. Soldier is Army, Airman is Air Force, and a Sailor is Navy.* I would love to see a reference for this. A soldier is commonly used as a generic term that is used to refer to any member of the armed forces of any country. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 13:02 | comment | added | nico | @Christopher: I do understand your point and that is the reason of my +1. I am just saying that I do not share those views as, fortunately or unfortunately we do not leave in Utopia. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 11:43 | comment | added | Christopher | @nico, I respectfully disagree on two platforms. First, the President is always in the public's view, and it isn't always his beliefs that matter - more of the beliefs of those he is in service of (The American People). Second, the American Flag is a symbol of everything he has dedicated his life to. Anyone who is in service of this country view the flag as more than just cloth, it's the reason for existence and ultimate sacrifice. | |
| May 18, 2012 at 10:54 | comment | added | nico | +1 for a good answer although I think the last part is not very useful (I mean the part about how disrispectful would be of him wearing the pin upside-down). Why be offended for such a minor useless detail when there are much worst problems to complain about? It is just a flag, and it is just a pin. I think it is better to value actions more than aspect... | |
| May 18, 2012 at 10:07 | history | answered | Christopher | CC BY-SA 3.0 |