Timeline for Are ion heaters significantly more efficient then normal electric heaters?
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| Nov 23, 2015 at 13:18 | comment | added | user29285 | ALL electrical energy becomes heat. All electrical devices are 100% efficient at turning electricity in to heat. The only exception is radiant energy (light or radio waves) escaping the building. You cannot build a "more efficient" electric heater. Every single watt you use for any purpose becomes heat. | |
| S Dec 7, 2013 at 17:57 | history | bounty ended | ChrisW | ||
| S Dec 7, 2013 at 17:57 | history | notice removed | ChrisW | ||
| Dec 6, 2013 at 19:21 | vote | accept | Suma | ||
| Dec 1, 2013 at 0:41 | comment | added | dmckee --- ex-moderator kitten | Heat pumps are the way to get better more thermal input than your power. This is well understood thermodynamics and has only been known since the late 19th century. | |
| S Nov 30, 2013 at 21:28 | history | bounty started | ChrisW | ||
| S Nov 30, 2013 at 21:28 | history | notice added | ChrisW | Reward existing answer | |
| Nov 26, 2013 at 14:20 | answer | added | Suma | timeline score: 10 | |
| May 10, 2012 at 18:17 | history | notice removed | CommunityBot | ||
| May 10, 2012 at 18:17 | history | bounty ended | CommunityBot | ||
| May 2, 2012 at 16:44 | history | notice added | Suma | Draw attention | |
| May 2, 2012 at 16:44 | history | bounty started | Suma | ||
| May 2, 2012 at 3:23 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | @Suma: Ah! Good point. | |
| Apr 19, 2012 at 2:08 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackSkeptic/status/192796697452216321 | ||
| Apr 18, 2012 at 7:09 | comment | added | 410 gone | That certificate reference number comes up as a test certificate for a wi-fi router: i4wifi.cz/img.asp?attid=245284 . Ion boiler: dodgy physics, dodgy certificate, and no scientific papers. | |
| Apr 17, 2012 at 15:33 | comment | added | Suma | Yes, I understand that, however I fail to see the external source in this case. The ion boiler seems to be only heating the medium, with no access to any external source. | |
| Apr 17, 2012 at 12:39 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | @Suma: I remember making the exact same argument to my father when I was about 20. He won. Heat pumps can be more than "100% efficient", because they get their energy from outside sources, and hence the term "efficiency" is deprecated here. Ref. The analogy than won me over: imagine a simple device that pipes molten lava from a nearby lava stream into your home. It will heat up the home a lot faster than an equivalently-powered radiator. | |
| Apr 17, 2012 at 12:30 | comment | added | Chad | @Suma this is a simple electrodynamics question. If it get time ill hunt up some links and post an answer I am skeptical you will understand. | |
| Apr 17, 2012 at 11:13 | comment | added | Suma | ... or approaching the problem from the other side: if the system is really able to give me 1.57x more heat than the energy I pay for, it is quite a significant achievement and I would be surprised if the only manufacturer using such technology would be a Latvian company. Why did not GM bought the company yet? Electric heater is one of the most efficient appliances possible, as any "lost" energy is converted to heat anyway. It is hard to be more than 100 % efficient. | |
| Apr 17, 2012 at 11:02 | comment | added | Suma | I find it strange that I would get more energy then I put into the heater from it, given there is no additional external energy input (and the manufactures does not speak of any). Such claim looks to me like contradicting the law of conservation of energy, and I would need to than a EU certification to accept that. | |
| Apr 17, 2012 at 9:52 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | Perhaps you could clarify your concern. I cannot understand it? Also, are you unhappy with the certification provided? | |
| Apr 17, 2012 at 9:46 | history | edited | Oddthinking♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 17, 2012 at 8:09 | history | asked | Suma | CC BY-SA 3.0 |