Timeline for Is there any place where you need one form of ID to buy a gun, but two to pay for it by check?
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| May 28, 2020 at 4:03 | comment | added | supercat | I don't know if stores still do this, but I've seen some stores which would issue their own credentials for regular customers who wished to use checks. If a store that had such a policy also happened to sell firearms, buying a gun with cash would require a government-issued ID, but buying one wish a check would require both a government ID and the store-issued credential. | |
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| Jan 11, 2017 at 21:20 | comment | added | Loren Pechtel | Another thought comes to mind: Most people only have one photo ID, the second "ID" they would present would be a credit card. Someone who has a credit card is less likely to bounce a check than someone who doesn't. Thus such a policy could be reasonable even if the first ID was beyond question. | |
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| Nov 3, 2011 at 12:18 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | Let's take this to chat. | |
| Nov 3, 2011 at 10:40 | comment | added | Nicktar | @Oddthinking When I need an ID to by a firearm (hopefully) and another one to pay by cheque that makes one to by a firearm and two to pay for it by cheque... Ruins the effect but I think it'd satisfy the original claim, sorry. | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 22:37 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | @Nicktar, interesting. I am trying to read the sentence with your interpretation. You are saying that if I demand a photo-ID with an address for all check purchases AND a gun license (which I assume does NOT have an address - I have never seen one) for all gun purchases, that would satisfy the criteria? That's not an interesting claim :-( | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 16:50 | comment | added | Nicktar | @Oddtinking I'd like to disagree with your counting "as one each". The claim can be read as one to buy a firearm and another to pay by cheque. Since the claim made in the comic only states that two IDs are required to pay by cheque when buying a firearm. Nothing's said about buying something else... | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 15:25 | comment | added | Flimzy | @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇: Many states do regulate that you cannot ask for more than a single ID when accepting a check, as the answer points out. When this isn't mandated, though, you are right, it often is left up to the policy of the individual stores. | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 13:25 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇: Agreed. This approach only works if every state forbids asking for two forms of ID for checks, which may not be the case, in which case this answer will be inconclusive. The counter case would be to find just one shop with a policy of selling guns with one piece of ID for a cash sale and two forms for check sales. | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 13:22 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | @Flimzy: Presumably the requirement for two forms of ID is to make stealing, forging or obtaining sufficient ID through fraud more difficult. The effort to legally obtain the original ID isn't relevant in the first two cases. | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 13:16 | comment | added | Mr. Shiny and New 安宇 | Isn't this approach flawed, in that selling guns is regulated and the vendor is required to ask for ID, but accepting cheques is not regulated and it's more of a corporate policy about how much ID is required to pay by cheque? I.E. this depends on the individual stores in any state/jurisdiction that requires only one form of ID to buy a gun | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 12:43 | comment | added | DavRob60 | I fond a comment here stating that kentucky could be a winner. Someone could verify that? | |
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| Nov 2, 2011 at 8:56 | comment | added | Flimzy | In researching, it is apparant that many states require a state-issued firearm permit/license of some sort. In such states, purchasing a firearm likely only requires showing said permit, regardless of whether additional forms of ID were required to obtain the permit. This may render the original claim technically true, but also rather misleading. | |
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| Nov 2, 2011 at 8:16 | comment | added | jwenting | yes, but then you'd have to find as well that law in those states requires that an ID used for one purpose in a transaction can not be also used for another purpose in the same transaction (iow it must be illegal to use the ID presented for the gun registration form for the purpose of validating the check, I highly doubt such laws are on the book anywhere). | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 8:06 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | @jwenting, Yes, for the states with a *, the focus is now on how much id is requested for a check. Some (possibly all? To be seen.) of the states, it seems, have privacy laws that protect people from being asked for too much ID. Asking for one id (e.g. gun license) for the purchase and another (e.g. driver's license) for the check counts, I think, as one each. | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 8:01 | comment | added | jwenting | as gun purchase procedures are seemingly identical or close to in most states, you should start looking at the differences between states in the requirements to issue personal checks in payment (and not necessarily for guns), which may differ between locale and even bank and acceptant. Of course those will need to require more different IDs than just the gun purchase, else the IDs needed for that can double to identify the buyer for the purpose of validating the check. | |
| Nov 2, 2011 at 3:35 | comment | added | Hendy | Other than the CA reference... can anyone even point one in the right direction in terms of where to look? My google-fu is coming up empty handed for MN. Should we be looking in state legislature, some type of business regulation documents, or something else? | |
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| Nov 2, 2011 at 3:05 | history | answered | Oddthinking♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |