Timeline for How can "chemical-free" surface cleaners work?
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| S Nov 6 at 18:52 | vote | accept | Adam Williams | ||
| Sep 23 at 0:01 | vote | accept | Adam Williams | ||
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| Sep 21 at 0:16 | comment | added | Prometheus | Related Meta discussion here. | |
| S Sep 20 at 2:02 | history | mod moved comments to chat | |||
| S Sep 20 at 2:02 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | Comments about linguistic prescriptivism have been moved to chat; please do not continue the discussion here. Before posting a comment below this one, please review the purposes of comments. Comments that do not request clarification or suggest improvements usually belong as an answer, on Skeptics Meta, or in Skeptics Chat. Comments continuing discussion may be removed. | |
| Sep 19 at 22:10 | comment | added | Pere | Interestingly, in amazon.co.uk/2San-Clean-Chemical-Surface-Cleaner/dp/B0C737VD75 this product is "plant based". | |
| Sep 19 at 5:53 | comment | added | bukwyrm | Water is H2O, i.e. oxygen and hydrogen, depending on the last steps applied to the 'hydro-embellished' water a whole host of chemically active (and thus potentially cleaning) substances could be produced,H2O2, H2O3, HO, HO3, O2, O3, ... depending on the letter of the law, this might not have to be disclosed, as no material is added - to make those stable would require changing the 2:1 ratio of H:O, which would afaik severly affect pH, and also the drinkability... | |
| Sep 18 at 19:25 | answer | added | Hannover Fist | timeline score: -4 | |
| Sep 18 at 18:06 | history | edited | Adam Williams | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Add a link to an archived version of the bacteria/viruses claim
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| Sep 18 at 17:44 | comment | added | DonQuiKong | Does distilled water have any relevant antimicrobial effects? | |
| Sep 18 at 16:08 | answer | added | grafix | timeline score: 26 | |
| Sep 18 at 14:38 | answer | added | Ilmari Karonen | timeline score: 44 | |
| Sep 18 at 9:50 | answer | added | Tony M | timeline score: 2 | |
| Sep 18 at 2:08 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | A reminder to the linguistic prescriptivists: Scientists don't own words, and the battle over the term "chemical-free" was, perhaps sadly, lost by them a couple of decades ago. When used in marketing, the marketing definition (approximately: "no artificial additives produced in lab conditions by chemical reactions") can be inferred. | |
| Sep 18 at 1:32 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Sep 17 at 22:08 | comment | added | Weather Vane | @JimmyJames don't the previous six stages remove chlorine and sodium? It's not "tap water" by that stage. The chemicals are removed. | |
| Sep 17 at 22:03 | comment | added | JimmyJames | @AdamWilliams "it's hardly "chemical-free" once the process is complete!" I think that's the heart of the question. From the link I posted above: "Electrolyzing regular tap water produces a solution of hypochlorous acid and sodium hydroxide" Those sure sound like chemicals to me but earlier in that same page they claim it is "chemical-free". It doesn't seem to make sense from a literal perspective so I'm assuming they mean no chemicals are added. | |
| Sep 17 at 21:34 | answer | added | Laurel | timeline score: 34 | |
| Sep 17 at 21:17 | comment | added | Weather Vane | The manufacturer's website link talks about using ATP test for cleanliness. Here is some background information. | |
| Sep 17 at 20:23 | comment | added | Adam Williams | Electrolysis may well explain it, though as your site states @Laurel - it's hardly "chemical-free" once the process is complete! It's interesting though, their site doesn't imply you need to add salt to the machines that they sell.. Unless that's what's hidden in the "filters". Is there actually enough sodium in tap water to do this without needing additional salt? | |
| Sep 17 at 18:33 | comment | added | Laurel | The relevant buzzword (found somewhere on their site) seems to be "re-engineered water", though it's not clear which type they're using (except it's probably not steam). | |
| Sep 17 at 18:08 | comment | added | JimmyJames | This might be relevant: totousa.com/tips/what-is-ewater-plus | |
| S Sep 17 at 17:31 | review | First questions | |||
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| S Sep 17 at 17:31 | history | asked | Adam Williams | CC BY-SA 4.0 |