Timeline for Did Nelson Mandela directly compare or accuse Israel of apartheid?
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| May 31, 2021 at 2:50 | vote | accept | user126100 | ||
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| May 31, 2021 at 2:50 | comment | added | user126100 | what? who do you think the "he" in that quote refers to? | |
| May 26, 2021 at 21:16 | comment | added | Mordechai | About the quote from the Jerusalem Post article "avoid becoming a binational “apartheid state”: the article does not say that in Mandela's name, so the quote is irrelevant. | |
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| May 25, 2021 at 19:34 | comment | added | tim | @user126100 I focused on the primary claim which essentially says '[Mandela called] Israel an apartheid state'. I think his detailed views about Israel would be beyond the scope of the question. I think 'avoid becoming a binational “apartheid state”' doesn't really match that claim as it's directed at a (potential) future (I also assume that part is less about Israel, but more about Gaza and the West Bank, which he might have seen as being at risk if Israel were to seize control; though I wasn't able to find more context around the quote). | |
| May 25, 2021 at 19:23 | comment | added | user126100 | my second concern is from the first source, where quotes like 'called Israel that year a “terrorist state”' and 'that “injustice and gross human rights violations were being perpetrated in Palestine”' seem to paint a more intense criticism than one would get from just reading your answer. | |
| May 25, 2021 at 19:20 | comment | added | user126100 | Thank you for your answer! but I feel that reading the sources that you provided gives a slightly different impression than what your answer gives. My main concern is the 3rd source, where it was said: 'While he supported Zionism in principle, he believed that if there was to be peace in the Middle East, Israel must negotiate a two-state solution with the Palestinians and avoid becoming a binational “apartheid state” – or risk becoming an international pariah like apartheid South Africa' . | |
| May 25, 2021 at 16:34 | comment | added | tim | @a_donda Arjan El Fassed confirmed it on electronic intifada: the Mandela memo was only a piece of satire. The source the Monthly Review linked to - the tumbler account of El Fassed where he goes into detail on his pov of the issue - is down, but can still be accessed on wayback. | |
| May 25, 2021 at 16:22 | comment | added | user59454 | Ok, not insinuating anything, but how can we be sure these things are correct ? Especially the JC opinion is imo not totally beyond any doubt of being non-partisan. | |
| May 25, 2021 at 16:05 | history | answered | tim | CC BY-SA 4.0 |