Timeline for Were 51,000 Pennsylvania jobs lost under the Obama administration?
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May 14, 2019 at 2:15 | vote | accept | Stormblessed | ||
May 4, 2019 at 14:35 | comment | added | Jeff Lambert | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
May 4, 2019 at 13:26 | comment | added | Acccumulation | I very clearly said what your rudeness was: you referred to my not agreeing with you as "ignoring" the second sentence. There is no way that anyone with basic reading comprehension could think I am saying that you not taking your position is being rude. The overwhelming evidence is that you have no interest in having a good faith discussion, and so I have flagged your comment. | |
May 3, 2019 at 16:40 | comment | added | Jeff Lambert | @Accumulation Because I refuse to take your position I am rude? I am taking the message as a whole. You have an issue with my answer, that's fine. I disagree with your interpretation, now your choices are to provide your own answer, or just disengage and move on. | |
May 3, 2019 at 16:32 | comment | added | Acccumulation | The tweet says "During Obama/Biden Admin, the Keystone State LOST 51,000 jobs." There is literally a period at the end. You keep bringing up the existence of a following sentence, you you adamantly refuse to provide any explanation for how it is relevant, and are rudely referring to my not accepting your position, which you refuse to explain, as "ignoring" that sentence. | |
May 3, 2019 at 16:29 | comment | added | Jeff Lambert | @Accumulation Not just a period. There's a whole sentence after that that you are still ignoring. | |
May 3, 2019 at 16:24 | comment | added | Acccumulation | I don't understand what you're saying. It's very likely that Barack Obama has eaten baby carrots, and even if he hasn't that's irrelevant, as I was presenting a hypothetical. "You can't just focus on the first sentence and ignore the rest of the message, because that's not how language works. " You can't just make random claims and not explain how they support your point. That's not how arguments work. "but the statement is true: 51,000 jobs in a specific category of jobs did disappear under Obama." That's not the statement. The statement was that they lost 51k jobs. Period. | |
May 3, 2019 at 16:19 | comment | added | Jeff Lambert | Your example is nowhere near comparable, because there is no sense that your statement has ever been true. You can't just focus on the first sentence and ignore the rest of the message, because that's not how language works. It's definitely not clear that the second part qualifies the first, and could be intentionally unclear in an effort to mislead, but the statement is true: 51,000 jobs in a specific category of jobs did disappear under Obama. If you continue to disagree, feel free to do so in your own answer. | |
May 3, 2019 at 14:41 | comment | added | Acccumulation | The claim as written is false. That one can insert words into it to make it false does mean it's "terse", it means it's false. If I say "Barack Obama eats babies", that's false. It's not merely "terse" if he eats baby carrots. This isn't a matter of "grammar", it's a matter of lying. | |
May 3, 2019 at 1:30 | comment | added | Jeff Lambert | @Accumulation The tweeter may have been terse in their assertions, and you can maybe make your argument to a grammar teacher, but not with me. | |
May 3, 2019 at 0:35 | comment | added | Acccumulation | "Yes But only when counting manufacturing jobs" So, then, no. | |
May 1, 2019 at 0:32 | history | edited | Jeff Lambert | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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May 1, 2019 at 0:05 | history | edited | Jeff Lambert | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Apr 30, 2019 at 23:38 | history | edited | Jeff Lambert | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Apr 30, 2019 at 19:08 | history | answered | Jeff Lambert | CC BY-SA 4.0 |