Timeline for Did close to 3,000 Puerto Ricans die in Hurricane Maria?
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| Sep 17, 2018 at 12:13 | comment | added | DavePhD | NOAA does study indirect deaths. nhc.noaa.gov/data/indirect_deaths.php# That site has a spreadsheet detailing direct vs indirect deaths for all US hurricanes 1963-2015 | |
| Sep 17, 2018 at 7:39 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Direct deaths and indirect deaths should both be reported to make results statistically sound and meaningful. In the end, if you are dead, it doesn't really matter if the death was direct or indirect. | |
| Sep 17, 2018 at 0:14 | comment | added | De Novo |
NOAA's publication on hurricane Maria expects the official death toll to include indirect deaths: It should be noted that hundreds of additional indirect deaths in Puerto Rico may eventually be attributed to Maria’s aftermath pending the results of an official government review
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| Sep 17, 2018 at 0:12 | comment | added | De Novo | @Possum-Pie the NOAA standard is not to ignore indirect deaths. It's to classify deaths correctly and record both direct and indirect deaths. | |
| Sep 17, 2018 at 0:03 | comment | added | De Novo | This answer misinterprets NOAA's directives regarding how to classify deaths as direct or indirect, and what to release in their own publication (Storm Data), as an instruction to local governments on how to calculate an official government death toll. The quote is not from NOAA. | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 21:37 | history | edited | DavePhD | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 15, 2018 at 21:21 | comment | added | HonoredMule | Could you clarify what you mean by statistical relevance/accuracy? It seems to me that you're presenting an answer explicitly constrained to the least complete and reliable numbers, excluding statistical models based on data that is far more extensive and accurate. | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 21:00 | comment | added | Possum-Pie | @Oddthinking The NOAA standard is to ignore indirect deaths. While this may not reflect the scope of mortality, it is the most precise way of keeping the results statistically relevent. Consider that each administration has a stake in swinging the numbers as low as possible, and the NOAA tight definition helps prevent this. | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 20:29 | history | edited | Oddthinking♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 15, 2018 at 20:28 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | @Possum-Pie: The Galveston Hurricane doesn't appear to be pertinent. Is the revision text supposed to suggest that the industry standard is to ignore confirmed indirect deaths? | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 19:11 | history | edited | Possum-Pie | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 15, 2018 at 18:38 | comment | added | Possum-Pie | @Oddthinking " The Galveston Hurricane of 1900 was responsible for at least 8000 deaths and remains first on the list. A revision was made to Hurricane Katrina of 2005 to remove confirmed indirect deaths from the original total of 1500 based on recent research (Brunkard et al. 2008, Jonkman et al. 2009).” (Blake, Landsea, & Gibney, n.d.) Blake, E. S., Landsea, C. W., & Gibney, E. J. (n.d.). NOAA Technical Memorandum NWS NHC-6, 49. | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 16:04 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | Welcome to Skeptics! Please provide some references to support your claims. | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 16:03 | history | notice added | Oddthinking♦ | Needs citation | |
| Sep 15, 2018 at 16:03 | history | edited | Oddthinking♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Context. Grammar. Spelling. Removed "top deaths" data, because it was dated 2011 and is misleading today.
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| Sep 15, 2018 at 15:24 | history | answered | Possum-Pie | CC BY-SA 4.0 |