Timeline for Did Republicans select a nazi, neo-Confederate, pedophile, and pimp as general election candidates?
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| Aug 31, 2018 at 21:37 | comment | added | André Paramés | @gerrit nobody can be found guilty of pedophilia by a court, because pedophilia isn't a crime. | |
| Jul 31, 2018 at 10:12 | comment | added | hdhondt | @jwenting if you dislike Vox and Wikipedia, why don't you listen to the NY Post link where you can hear Corey Stewart in person? Or is he too left-wing for you? | |
| Jul 31, 2018 at 0:36 | comment | added | DavePhD | @bradbury9 you're right, but there was absolutely no other candidate running against Jones (the Nazi), not even a write-in candidate. Even if he only voted for himself, he would have won the primary. | |
| Jul 30, 2018 at 14:31 | comment | added | Murphy | Technically to prove the "selected by republicans" bit you'd also have to show that crossover voting ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_voting ) , where people vote in their opposition parties primary in order to select the least electable candidate, didn't occur. | |
| Jul 30, 2018 at 10:32 | comment | added | bradbury9 | @AndrewGrimm "no other serious candidates". If there were more than 1 candidate, regardless of the quality, they were selected. | |
| Jul 30, 2018 at 3:17 | comment | added | Golden Cuy | Can you confirm that these people were "selected by republicans", as opposed to winning the primary because no other serious candidates entered the primary and they won by default? | |
| Jul 29, 2018 at 20:47 | comment | added | gerrit | @tim As long as the criminal act is an accusation, there are only alleged victims. That doesn't imply accusing anybody of lying, it's just stating that those allegations have not been proven in court. Presumption of innocence is not only for a court of law, it is for all society. | |
| Jul 29, 2018 at 19:04 | comment | added | Muschkopp | Re. 3 he may technically not be a paedophile: Or, in other words, there is nothing that would suggest that he is a pedophile. | |
| Jul 29, 2018 at 18:57 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | Great. My point is that such evidence should be in the answer. | |
| Jul 29, 2018 at 16:32 | comment | added | DavePhD | @NateEldredge Jones admits that he was a Nazi, but says that was in the past. He was a member of the "American Nazi Party" and "ran for mayor of Milwaukee as a member of the National Socialist White People’s Party in 1976" nytimes.com/2018/03/20/us/politics/arthur-jones-illinois.html | |
| Jul 29, 2018 at 4:08 | history | edited | hdhondt | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 29, 2018 at 1:10 | comment | added | hdhondt | @Nate I've added a couple of links about Jones and Stewart that should make it very clear my original sources are correct. A quick Duckduckgo search will find plenty more. | |
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| Jul 28, 2018 at 20:16 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | Can we get better evidence for Jones's alleged Nazi beliefs beyond "Wikipedia says so"? If Wikipedia (or any other source) has direct evidence of things that Jones has said or done that would lead a reasonable person to characterize him as a "neo-Nazi", then let's have that evidence here in the answer. The same for Stewart and Vox. | |
| Jul 28, 2018 at 17:47 | comment | added | tim | @gerrit He hasn't been convicted because of the statute of limitations. Presumption of innocence is for a court of law; I think it's fine to point out that he wasn't convicted; the answer also already uses the phrase "accused of" instead of eg plain saying that he sexually assaulted children. But putting "alleged" before "victims" indirectly accuses all those who came forward of lying, which doesn't seem necessary in this context. | |
| Jul 28, 2018 at 16:07 | comment | added | gerrit | On point 3: I have changed victims to alleged victims. Mr Moore has not been convicted in court. Until a crime has been proven in court, the crime is only an allegation, therefore there are only alleged victims. It is wrong of the original claim to refer to a suspect of pædophilia as a pædophile (the age of the victims is not relevant), which makes point 3 a form of libel as long as he has not been convicted in court. Regardless of political views, in any state based on justice, the presumption of innocence is very important. | |
| Jul 28, 2018 at 16:05 | history | edited | gerrit | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
victims -> alleged victims: anyone is innocent until proven guilty, therefore victims are alleged victims until crime has been proven in court
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| Jul 28, 2018 at 6:38 | comment | added | tim | I agree though that a bit more context would be nice. Jones eg was disavowed by many Illinois Republicans and likely only succeeded because Republicans didn't care enough about the district (or about preventing a Nazi to run and win their nomination). Then again, Jones isn't the only Nazi or White Supremacist Republican candidate... | |
| Jul 28, 2018 at 6:37 | comment | added | tim | @fredsbend I don't think the message of the image is really "Republicans are worse than Democrats", but "You complain about a democratic socialist, but you have literal Nazis as candidates". It seems more like a defense of Ocasio-Cortez, and less of an attack on Republicans. Adding a comparison to "worse" Democrats to the answer wouldn't seem in the spirit of the question. | |
| Jul 28, 2018 at 6:26 | comment | added | user11643 | Great work. I'm worried that the message of the claim is unaddressed. Ocasio is probably not the worst the Democrats have nominated, yet these four are probably the worst the Republicans have nominated. Likely not a fair comparison. | |
| Jul 28, 2018 at 4:34 | vote | accept | Evan Carroll | ||
| Jul 28, 2018 at 4:19 | history | answered | hdhondt | CC BY-SA 4.0 |