Timeline for Do airlines have a "Do not pair" list of pilots who don't want to work with each other?
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| Aug 4, 2017 at 20:15 | comment | added | reirab | @Jamiec I don't think it's clear that do-not-pairs would inevitably be paired due to outside circumstances, especially in the U.S. The major airlines in the U.S. literally have over ten thousand pilots each. Not pairing a given set of 2 of them can't be that hard. | |
| Jul 30, 2017 at 7:29 | history | edited | GordonM | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 27, 2017 at 8:59 | comment | added | GordonM | @Jamiec I might have given a misleading impression that the report made a direct recommendation for Do Not Pair lists. As you say, it doesn't. My source for Flight 5719 leading to DNP lists was the episode of Air Crash Investigation, presumably on the initiative of the airlines or by an informal recommendation from the NTSB. I'll try to think up a way to re-word the answer for that. Also, even if Do Not Pair sometimes has to be violated, it seems better to only pair pilots who don't work well together when there's no other option rather than letting them pair up as a matter of routine. | |
| Jul 25, 2017 at 1:41 | history | edited | Oddthinking♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Sure you can link to a TV show!
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| Jul 24, 2017 at 13:36 | comment | added | Jamiec♦ | I have read the report, and if Do Not Pair lists were as a result of this accident, it wasnt a finding nor recommendation of the NTSB.I think you're summizing something which is not true - that bad CRM was responsible for the lists. Its hardly a solution to the problem and in fact could clearly make it worse (when do not pair pairs are inevitably paired due to extraneous circumstances) | |
| Jul 24, 2017 at 10:19 | comment | added | GordonM | @AndrewGrimm The mentioned TV show lists do not pair lists as one of the remedies introduced after the accident in its summing up. | |
| Jul 24, 2017 at 9:31 | comment | added | Golden Cuy | The Wikipedia article mentions the crash in question, and the causes of the crash, but I couldn't find it mentioning allowing people to not pair up. I have not read the NTSB report, though. | |
| Jul 24, 2017 at 9:25 | comment | added | daniel | nice answer, I guess the problem with proving the list exists is that with any secret shadow ban style system you are not able to see if you are on it. | |
| Jul 24, 2017 at 9:25 | comment | added | Jamiec♦ | It would be more convincing if that NTSB report suggested (or compelled) airline operators to introduce some sort of Do Not Pair list. | |
| Jul 24, 2017 at 9:17 | history | edited | GordonM | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 24, 2017 at 9:04 | history | answered | GordonM | CC BY-SA 3.0 |