Timeline for Did Hitler support zionism?
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| Sep 14, 2020 at 2:21 | comment | added | Acccumulation | @DJClayworth Arguably, it's a bit inappropriate to say "Israel", since it didn't exist at the time. | |
| Sep 14, 2020 at 2:20 | comment | added | Acccumulation | Zionism and Hitler had a shared goal of resettling Jews to the Levant. Hitler didn't support Zionism in general, but he supported one aspect of it. | |
| Sep 6, 2020 at 21:14 | comment | added | Yehuda | Hitler was famously also a very big supporter of Haj Amin al-Husseini, a violent anti-Zionist responsible for the deaths of scores of Jews in British Mandate Palestine. | |
| Aug 29, 2020 at 16:49 | comment | added | gerrit | @DJClayworth Me? I'm not making the claim, Mr. Livingstone is (or was). | |
| Aug 29, 2020 at 14:52 | comment | added | DJClayworth | Also this seems to be leaning towards attempting to discredit something by associating an evil person with it. "Hitler built highways, so highways must be bad." | |
| Aug 29, 2020 at 14:46 | comment | added | DJClayworth | You are conflating two very different things. "Zionism" is the belief that the Jews should have a homeland, Israel, that they administer and where they can live if they want to. Hitler's policy (even in 1932) was that Jews should be forcibly deported to somewhere else, and Israel would do as well as anywhere. | |
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| May 9, 2016 at 11:38 | vote | accept | gerrit | ||
| May 7, 2016 at 0:05 | comment | added | barlop | he got his claim from lenny brenner - zionists in the age of dictators. Some relevant links.. hurryupharry.org/2016/04/29/who-is-lenni-brenner and hurryupharry.org/2016/05/01/… and hurryupharry.org/2016/04/30/… and brockley.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/… | |
| May 4, 2016 at 15:38 | comment | added | gerrit | @tim The suspension is my source to support that the quote is controversial. | |
| May 4, 2016 at 15:16 | comment | added | tim | @gerrit You might want to remove the part about Livingstones suspension from the question. It's not really relevant to the claim, and it's a bit one-sided. Livingstone said a lot of things, in a specific context; your formulation and comment might imply that an allusion to the Haavara agreement is what got him suspended, which I really don't think is the case. | |
| May 1, 2016 at 10:17 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackSkeptic/status/726717077751484416 | ||
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| Apr 28, 2016 at 17:28 | history | edited | gerrit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 28, 2016 at 15:23 | comment | added | gerrit | @Oddthinking I don't interpret the claim as being about motives. I am quite sure that Livingstone was referring to the Haavara Agreement, which can objectively be called support in the sense of helping logistically. What Hitlers motivation was is historically relevant, but I don't think it's essentially within the scope of the question. | |
| Apr 28, 2016 at 15:12 | comment | added | Oddthinking♦ | Isn't this just a question of an individual's motives, and therefore off-topic? | |
| Apr 28, 2016 at 14:48 | comment | added | gerrit | @matt_black True, support has different meanings. And to say before he went mad is a rather poor choice of phrasing, since it implies he wasn't mad already. I don't think either Livingstone or the sources supporting his claims suggest that Hitler supported Zionism for wishing a bright Jewish future, but rather to get rid of the problem (perhaps one could compare to how Native Americans in the USA were forcibly moved to reservations). I can see it is quite disingenuous to refer to both in the same way. | |
| Apr 28, 2016 at 14:39 | comment | added | matt_black | It is clear from Hitler's writings that he hated Jews. But his policies when he first came to power where often pragmatic and opportunistic (at least if you agree with A J P Taylor). So he might have pragmatically "supported" Zionism without that being his long term goal or his intent. This isn't what most people mean when they say "supported" which might explain the controversy about Livingstone's remarks. | |
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| S Apr 28, 2016 at 13:39 | answer | added | gerrit | timeline score: 34 | |
| S Apr 28, 2016 at 13:39 | history | asked | gerrit | CC BY-SA 3.0 |