Timeline for Did Soviet soldiers commit two million rapes of German women in 1945?
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| Aug 8, 2022 at 6:31 | comment | added | DevSolar | @reirab: You are actually serious, are you? We're talking an estimate of 860.000 cases, "about half of which by Russian soldiers", which the question is about. In a book titled "When the soldiers came". At a time where about five million German soldiers were dead and over eight million interred in POW camps, the rest being summarily kicked about by Allied forces. And you ask whether that estimate might include some ten thousand, or even a hundred thousand German-on-German cases. The mind boggles. | |
| Aug 5, 2022 at 12:03 | comment | added | reirab | @DevSolar I'm not trying to throw any shade or even quite sure who you think I'm throwing shade at. It simply didn't seem clear to me from that section whether her quote was only regarding cases of victims of Allied/Soviet soldiers or all victims, hence asking for clarification. Unfortunately, it's not like rape is something that is unheard of in the absence of war. Even today, with a stable democracy in place rather than a fascist dictatorship, there are around 10,000 cases reported to police in Germany every year (which is in line with other Western democracies on a per-capita basis.) | |
| Aug 5, 2022 at 7:20 | comment | added | DevSolar | @reirab: I have a hard time assuming good faith with your comment. No, actually, I can't assume good faith. Yes, the rest were primarily or (almost) entirely Allied soldiers, as should be clear from e.g. Cornelius Ryan's account. Don't try to throw shade. | |
| Aug 5, 2022 at 2:26 | comment | added | reirab | "So, even without making any estimates, and using Gebhart's number of children born to victims, we have almost ten thousand known cases." Is her claim about rape births limited to those who were victims of Allied/Soviet soldiers? The quote from her own claim in the answer estimates "about half" were from Soviet soldiers. Were the rest primarily or entirely also Allied soldiers? Or is that number including all rape victims in Germany at the time, including those raped by other Germans (or anyone other than Allied/Soviet soldiers?) | |
| Apr 9, 2016 at 5:48 | comment | added | DevSolar | @vartec: This is Skeptics.SE. Do you have sources that add significant insight? Not that I disagree, but I am disinclined to "chat" about the subject, if you excuse. | |
| Apr 9, 2016 at 5:42 | comment | added | vartec | Actually I think the opposite. There have been reports of rapes by Waffen-SS, not necessarily German ones though. Allegedly Cossack Waffen-SS was particularly known for their cruelty. | |
| Apr 9, 2016 at 5:36 | comment | added | DevSolar | @vartec: That distinction is only useful where it's useful. You think the Waffen-SS was held to a stricter code of ethics? I don't. | |
| Apr 9, 2016 at 1:26 | comment | added | vartec | "German high command that, if not actually encouraging sexual violence by Wehrmacht soldiers, did discourage persecution and punishment". What about Waffen-SS? | |
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| Jan 27, 2016 at 16:20 | history | answered | DevSolar | CC BY-SA 3.0 |