Timeline for Was ISIS created by the USA?
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| S Jul 12, 2018 at 15:27 | history | suggested | SQB | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 8, 2018 at 15:32 | comment | added | A E | VTC because the claims are unclear in that they could mean Western powers intentionally and deliberately created ISIS or they could mean that the creation of ISIS was an inadvertent side-effect of Western policies. | |
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| Oct 26, 2016 at 20:11 | comment | added | PoloHoleSet | #1 and #3 are very different than #2. The first and last statements talk about, through negligence, ineptitude, etc. the circumstances being created that made it possible or easier for an organization like ISIS to arise, #2 speaks of creation of the group by conscious intent and action. | |
| Sep 28, 2016 at 15:55 | comment | added | Suriya | Great info source reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3tlfn2/… | |
| May 22, 2016 at 14:04 | comment | added | dan-klasson | There is little information that they created ISIS. But they, without doubt, indirectly support ISIS. Both the Saudi and Turkish government are openly funding ISIS, and they are U.S allies. U.S makes no attempt to punish these allies for it, hence they are indirectly complicit in funding these terrorists. | |
| Jan 31, 2016 at 4:29 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackSkeptic/status/693652373160476673 | ||
| S Jan 28, 2016 at 16:10 | history | suggested | Lilienthal | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 27, 2016 at 15:52 | comment | added | Peter Turner | Adam Curry claims it frequently on the No Agenda show. His rationale is that the State Dept is behind the rebels and CIA is behind ISIS and they're fighting some sort of interior proxy war. | |
| Jan 27, 2016 at 13:51 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | @Scott: and a third question, "was the purpose to make chaos in Arabic countries?" Of the quotes in the question, (1) and (3) assert "yes" to your first question, (2) asserts "yes" to your second question and to my question. We could look for more context as to whether the creators referred to by Khamenei are "the US" and hence whether he also asserts "yes" to your first question. | |
| Jan 27, 2016 at 12:05 | comment | added | Alex Jones | @AndrewGrimm Great Depression didnt fund Hitler but USA did fund ME terrorist | |
| Jan 27, 2016 at 12:04 | comment | added | Alex Jones | you dont go on to create most dangerous terrorist with convincing people that you didnt | |
| Jan 27, 2016 at 2:25 | vote | accept | MedK | ||
| Jan 27, 2016 at 1:59 | history | edited | MedK | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 27, 2016 at 1:39 | comment | added | Scott | This is actually 2 questions. "Did the US create ISIS" and "Was it deliberate". You may get some increased clarity by specifying which of these questions you want people to focus on. | |
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| Jan 26, 2016 at 14:26 | vote | accept | MedK | ||
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| Jan 26, 2016 at 14:22 | vote | accept | MedK | ||
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| Jan 26, 2016 at 4:43 | comment | added | cat | This question's title is the definition of clickbait, no wonder it has 7k views in two days. | |
| Jan 26, 2016 at 2:57 | comment | added | Golden Cuy | Trump's ISIS claim seems to be another "allowed to happen" rather than "took actions to create", though his statement is far too short to tell. Reading Khamenei, the "they" in that sentence is rather vague - he's probably referring to "Zionists". The subsequent paragraph is potentially relevant though. | |
| Jan 26, 2016 at 1:44 | vote | accept | MedK | ||
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| Jan 26, 2016 at 1:20 | comment | added | MedK | @MarchHo : the sour for the first quote: youtube.com/watch?v=GU2avVIHde8 | |
| Jan 26, 2016 at 1:18 | history | edited | MedK | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 25, 2016 at 23:43 | comment | added | March Ho | Can you provide a source for the first quote? I was unable to find a source by googling it. Meanwhile, the second quote was indeed from Khamenei, and was also in context, so I withdrew close and +1. | |
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| S Jan 25, 2016 at 20:08 | answer | added | Shane | timeline score: 76 | |
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| Jan 25, 2016 at 19:28 | comment | added | DA01 | Statement 1 is framed a "in a way..." not as a literal fact. It's used as a point of discussion. Statement 2 is simply bloviating by the Ayatollah for purely political reasons. Neither statement has literal truth to it. | |
| Jan 25, 2016 at 19:08 | comment | added | Daniel | To say more clearly what others have said before me, these two comments are not equivalent. The second implies that the US deliberately created ISIS to pit Muslim countries against each other. The first implies that ISIS sprang up accidentally as an unintended consequence of American actions in the Middle East. | |
| Jan 25, 2016 at 16:08 | answer | added | Suriya | timeline score: 31 | |
| Jan 25, 2016 at 13:51 | comment | added | Max Williams | Danner's use of the word "create" really means "created a situation in which ISIS could arise", or to put it another way, "inadvertently helped to create". Khamenei doesn't say anything about the USA creating those groups, at least in your quote. | |
| Jan 25, 2016 at 13:45 | comment | added | Golden Cuy | 1) From the extent of the context provided, Danner's comment doesn't seem to mean create in a literal way. It's kind of like saying the Great Depression created Hitler. 2) doesn't say who created IS. | |
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| Jan 25, 2016 at 11:20 | comment | added | matt_black | You really need to add a reference to the claim or this will fail the notability test and be deleted. | |
| Jan 25, 2016 at 10:44 | comment | added | Alex Jones | @AndrewGrimm Noam chomsky, Donal Trump (current US presidential candidate) and many others working at various Govt positions | |
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| Jan 25, 2016 at 3:46 | history | asked | MedK | CC BY-SA 3.0 |