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| Dec 24, 2015 at 7:37 | comment | added | corsiKa | @XiangJi Saying "well it's only quality of life that's reduced" doesn't make it much less depressing. Also, if even 1% of those 1.4 million people (and 3.3 million around the globe) are directly caused by the pollution and not just a degradation of quality, that's still 14,000 people (and 33,000 globally) dying. Call me a softie but even 14,000 people dying to something preventable is still sad. | |
| Dec 24, 2015 at 5:33 | comment | added | xji | @StefanWalter Exactly. The whole thing seems sensational and really blown out of proportion. Not really surprising though. | |
| Dec 24, 2015 at 5:21 | comment | added | xji | @corsiKlauseHoHoHo Also, then you might as well consider everything in life to be "causing premature deaths" as well. | |
| Dec 24, 2015 at 5:21 | comment | added | xji | @corsiKlauseHoHoHo It's not really "unnecessary death". The definition is vague and potentially misleading here. Air pollution might very well reduce life qualities, but if you consider everybody who died from the reduction of life qualities to have "died prematurely", no matter how vague this estimation is (i.e. considering every other factor to be equal, do they die three months earlier? Then more likely they'll actually die 10 years "earlier" already from another disease, say cancer), then this is not very helpful. | |
| Dec 21, 2015 at 9:27 | vote | accept | undu | ||
| Dec 21, 2015 at 9:17 | comment | added | slebetman | @StefanWalter: As for how to use these numbers. It is as follows: say for example the total death by "stroke" is 0.001% of the world population (I'm making numbers up here as an example) - that equals to 73000 people. Say for example that we figure out that pollution increases you chances of dying by stroke by 20%. So we know that if we completely eliminate air pollution we would reduce the death rate to 0.0008. Which means we can potentially save 14600 lives per year. Even if we don't completely eliminate pollution, every bit we eliminate makes us closer to that number. | |
| Dec 21, 2015 at 9:08 | comment | added | slebetman | @StefanWalter: The reports specifically say that the deaths aren't the direct result of air pollution (or in your words "killed by air pollution") but instead by causes that are related to air pollution. Hence your definition is what is probably used - air pollution increases chance of stroke so every stroke is counted as being a death caused by a disease related to air pollution (the cause here is "stroke"). | |
| Dec 21, 2015 at 4:16 | comment | added | 299792458 | @StefanWalter - Now, ^ that's what Skeptics should be about! Furthermore, there can be an obvious difference between correlation and causation, unless research clearly unveils the latter in this case. :) | |
| Dec 20, 2015 at 13:20 | comment | added | user29292 | Well, I don't see how these numbers are of any use without a definition of "killed by air pollution". | |
| Dec 20, 2015 at 13:06 | comment | added | Online User | @StefanWalter: Of course not, that's not how science works. | |
| Dec 20, 2015 at 13:05 | comment | added | user29292 | How does this work? Air pollution increases the chance of a stroke, and so every stroke is counted as "killed by air pollution"? | |
| Dec 18, 2015 at 22:36 | comment | added | matt_black | @gerrit from memory, indoor air pollution is the largest cause of death by some margin. And the contribution is much less disputed than that from outdoor pollution. | |
| Dec 18, 2015 at 20:00 | comment | added | Amazon Dies In Darkness | Hmmm... The indoor air pollution numbers are surprisingly high (to me). What are the causes of all that indoor air pollution? | |
| Dec 18, 2015 at 18:37 | comment | added | corsiKa | I upvoted this for the research involved, but I'll be honest I was quite sad by the time I was done reading. I know we try to remain objective on this site, but so much unnecessary death is just depressing... | |
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| Dec 18, 2015 at 14:46 | comment | added | gerrit | Hmm, that's less than half of the WHO estimate from the same year. I wonder if the difference can be attributed due to the keyword outdoor air pollution. Indoor cooking with wood fires in unventilated homes is pretty damning as well. Or perhaps the methodology is different. Regardless, the conclusion is the same. | |
| Dec 18, 2015 at 14:43 | history | answered | Online User | CC BY-SA 3.0 |