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I've seen a lot of references on the Internet stating that vinegar mixed with baking soda is an effective way to disinfect mold, bacteria, etc. I'm skeptical that it has a significant effect because vinegar (and the result of mixing baking soda: sodium acetate) is not a particularly strong acid, and I expect that the acidity is the only disinfectant activity in this mixture.

However, many people tout the magic of vinegar and baking soda as a household cleaner.

Here's a sample quote:

Wikipedia

Vinegar, historically, has been reputed to have strong antibacterial properties. One test by Good Housekeeping's microbiologist found that 5% vinegar is 90% effective against mold and 99.9% effective against bacteria,[45]

And another:

White distilled vinegar is a popular household cleanser, effective for killing most mold, bacteria, and germs, due to its level of acidity. Cleaning with white distilled vinegar is a smart way to avoid using harsh chemicals. You’ll also be glad to know that it is environmentally friendly and very economical.

And another

Baking soda and vinegar kills all food germs and bacteria including E-coli and salmonella, naturally and safely.

A report from the University of Florida suggests that a mixture vinegar + lemon juice + baking soda results in a statistically significant reduction in tested bacteria, though it appears to be significantly less effective than the other cleaners tested.

How effective is vinegar & baking soda as a disinfectant?

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You've posted at least two things I'd call reliable sources (UoF's report, and Good Housekeeping's report) saying it does work. Major cleaning products (e.g. Windex) have vinegar-based product lines. What further evidence will convince you? – Joe Wreschnig Oct 31 '11 at 13:26
@JoeWreschnig, Well, Windex is a window cleaner - I wouldn't use it to clean the kitchen top. Is there a sodium acetate product line for general household cleaning? I'd like to see a number of studies from reputable Universities demonstrating anti-bacterial and anti-mold properties of vinegar with (or without) baking soda. Given that this claim has been around since time immemorial, you'd think a few people would've looked into it. :) – Brian M. Hunt Oct 31 '11 at 14:48
I've done this on shower mildew in a controlled way--spraying parts of the shower stall and not others, waiting ~30 minutes before washing off--and have noted a difference in the time the (parts of the) shower remains mildew-free. This doesn't say how effective it is, but the vinegar-soak was definitely doing something beyond the brief scrubbing with household cleaners (at least on the mildew in this particular shower). – Rex Kerr Oct 31 '11 at 23:58
On the subject of University studies to scientifically show the effectiveness of vinegar and bicarb stuff on bacteria. It usually costs money for such studies, and who is going to fund those studies more than the companies who make the 'poisonous' products. And if the big companies pay for the funding, will there ever be an independent no-nonsense umpire who would oversee that study? Has there ever been such and independent judgement??? – user8405 Sep 1 '12 at 12:18

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Things only need to be slightly acidic to kill bacteria. vinegar, IIRC has a pKa of 4.7, and is pretty acidic (depending on the concentration). Most bacteria have a small pH range (6 to 8 usually) for survival, due to the pH ranges of constituent enzymes.

According to this, vinegar isn't a disinfectant. It only gets rid of most microbes, but not all, unlike bleach/hydrochloric acid. Disinfectants

Vinegar is good as a preservating agent, though. It's got enough acidity to kill of the majority of the bacteria, and doesn't really harm us.

Baking soda makes it better, as it makes the solution basic. The reason baking soda on its own isn't that good is that it contains both Na+ and HCO3- ions. Dissolving it isn't that good as the acidic HCO3 conflicts with the basic Na. But, on reacting it with acetic acid, the HCO3 leaves as a gas (CO2). So we get a basic solution. The acetate ions are not that good at inhibiting the Na, so its slightly better than sodium bicarb solution.

Aside from that, basic solutions do not affect metal surfaces. Acidic solutions do.

References/calculations for the bicarb thing:

Vinegar seems to be 5%-ish acetic acid, depending upon the type. Using its density as 1.049, we get 0.05*1.049=0.052 grams in 1L water, giving us a 8*10^-4 molar solution. An extremely dilute solution dissociates nearly completely, so we get a pH of ~4.8.

Bicarb has a pKa1 of 6.3, pKa2 of 10.3. pH is average of these two, so we get pH=6.3 on its own. Not as effective as vinegar.

But, if we mix them, we get 8*10^-4 molar sodium acetate. The exact opposite happens, and we get a pOH of ~4.8, or a pH of ~9.2 at STP. So its more basic than plain bicarb. Both pure vinegar and vinegar+baking soda will be just as effective in killing bacteria, as they are +/- 2.2 pH from neutrality, and most bacteria in the atmosphere will thrive in nearly neutral conditions like the atmosphere. The only difference is that a basic solution

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Please add references for the pH range for bacterial survival and the fact that baking soda does not make a difference. – nico Mar 4 '12 at 13:36
@nico unfortunately, bacteria have varying pH ranges. Enzymes have an average plusminus 0.5pH range. But this also widely varies. The point is, the bacteria living in the open are those with a tolerance of neutral (pH=7) places. – Manishearth Mar 4 '12 at 14:11
Sodium bicarb will make the solution basic (not too much). Same issue there. I can't source these, but I can do a derivation if you want. – Manishearth Mar 4 '12 at 14:14
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Skeptics SE requires referenced answers :) I am sure you can find references for average pH ranges for most bacteria (we can probably forget about extremophiles for the purpose of this answer). You could add calculations for baking soda but, again, I think a quick search on Pubmed may reveal some interesting information. – nico Mar 4 '12 at 14:56
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This answer is complete nonsense. Baking soda does not somehow become less basic in solution (aside from the obvious dilution), and you don't have to be a chemist to know that mixing acid + base does not give you something more basic. The baking soda and vinegar reaction has virtually no utility outside of grade-school science demonstrations ("volcano"). It's an extremely inefficient way to produce sodium acetate - which is already cheap to get pure and not generally considered a good disinfectant anyway. Vinegar and peroxide (= peracetic acid) is a more useful household disinfectant. – Aaronaught Oct 8 '12 at 20:04
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